Global warming

Originally Posted by Lanc_arm_strong

Drought: But you must understand that the present drought in Australia is not much worse then many in Australias record. Lack of water is caused by a lot of things. One is bad luck, rain justr might not fall in the right places. But population growth coupled with a lack of investment in water supply is actually the main reason. And some parts of Australia, mainly in the north, have experienced GAINS in rainfall!

Farmers: Some parts of Australias farming industry used to be ridiculous, protection, subsidies as well as government handouts during tough times to help inefficient farmers to get through their bad partches in the past. But luckly this attidude has dwindled, so farmers are losing their farms because the Government is not giving them handouts during droughts as it used to! So you see, it is just economics thats behind it!

Bushfires: Less loging of mainland forrests in recent years= Less fire breaks=Worse fires (Also could it be that there are just more lunitics deliberatly lighting fires?)

As an aside its so stupid the way no one really adddress how bad fires are for green house gases?? It seems to me that the easiest, cheapest and quickest way to reduce GHG is to just put fires out quicker?? Perhaps there is more to it, what do you all think?

Originally Posted by Bargearse

An American giving lectures about subsidies to Australia's farmers? Look in your own backyard!

Originally Posted by Bargearse

An American giving lectures about subsidies to Australia's farmers? Look in your own backyard!

Originally Posted by lumpy

Although local temperatures fluctuate naturally, over the past 50 years the average global temperature has increased at the fastest rate in recorded history. And experts think the trend is accelerating: the 10 hottest years on record have all occurred since 1990. Scientists say that unless we curb global warming emissions, average U.S. temperatures could be 3 to 9 degrees higher by the end of the century.
Global warming is already causing damage in many parts of the United States. In 2002, Colorado, Arizona and Oregon endured their worst wildfire seasons ever. The same year, drought created severe dust storms in Montana, Colorado and Kansas, and floods caused hundreds of millions of dollars in damage in Texas, Montana and North Dakota. Since the early 1950s, snow accumulation has declined 60 percent and winter seasons have shortened in some areas of the Cascade Range in Oregon and Washington.

Of course, the impacts of global warming are not limited to the United States. In 2003, extreme heat waves caused more than 20,000 deaths in Europe and more than 1,500 deaths in India. And in what scientists regard as an alarming sign of events to come, the area of the Arctic's perennial polar ice cap is declining at the rate of 9 percent per decade.

# Melting glaciers, early snowmelt and severe droughts will cause more dramatic water shortages in the American West.

# Rising sea levels will lead to coastal flooding on the Eastern seaboard, in Florida, and in other areas, such as the Gulf of Mexico.

# Warmer sea surface temperatures will fuel more intense hurricanes in the southeastern Atlantic and Gulf coasts.

# Forests, farms and cities will face troublesome new pests and more mosquito-borne diseases.

# Disruption of habitats such as coral reefs and alpine meadows could drive many plant and animal species to extinction.



I got that here: http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/f101.asp#2

although you might like this site better: http://www.epa.gov/globalwarming/kids/

Originally Posted by Billsworld

George Bush is officially the most powerful man in the history of the Universe to cause all that in 6 years. The U.S is evil, the U.S. is evil, the U.S. is evil, the U.S. is evil.......................................bla bla bla

Originally Posted by stevebaby

The penny dropped at last....
Well done Bill!
You'll be meeting Ann Coulter before you can say 'Bill's a commie pinko'!

Originally Posted by limerickman

The science tells us that if the present rate of greenhouse gas emmissions is maintained, the earths mean temperature will rise by 3 - 4 degrees celsius.
That rise is a fact - and it is incontrovertible.

What pattern any subsequent weather pattern changes are inflicted, as a result of that increase, are largely academic.
What should be concentrating minds is maintaining (or ideally reducing)
current/future temperature increases.
The only way to do this is for the world to cut greenhouse gas emmissions - now.

Originally Posted by steve_18798

You bet it's real. Look at Windsor Ontario and you'll see a weather pattern thats never been here before as also some places are also getting record snowfalls in just a couple of hours and they say that the world will flood over time. This is also true as the polar ice caps will melt due to climate change that is unusually warm in the north and south poles as huge chunks of ice are breaking off and melting. The Day After Tomorrow anybody?

Originally Posted by Piotr

Never been there before?! You must've been around a loooong time.

Reminds me of (paraphrasing): The sun will turn dark, the moon will turn into blood, and the stars will fall from the sky in the terrible day of the Lord.

It's time to get biblical people!

Originally Posted by Piotr

Small correction: Science doesn't tell us squat. It's the scientists who depend on government funding that tell us those things. As to science, well, let's find a lone dessenter, because those have historically been right.

Isn't it convenient to predict things 50-100 years in the future where there will be no one to be held liable for that error. If those alarmists are so educated on "global warming" perhaps they could throw us a bone and predict something for the next, say 10 years. Ah wait, they have done that in the past. Unfortunately, they've been so laughably wrong that they thought better of it.

Originally Posted by steve_18798

Were pretty much screwed as the scientist's were saying that it could raise the sea level by up to about 3.8 meters. So where would you hide, we all can't fit on the mountains.