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Old 17-03.-2006, 07:24 PM   #16
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Kersten still has the keirin tonight and the scratch race.
Im tipping Shane Kelly to cause an upset in tonights Keirin final.

Texted Hayden Godfrey after the Kilo (5th in 1.03.9). He was happy with a PB and good warm up for the Teams Pursuit. Noted that he clearly paced himself for the ride and Kersten won it with a good last lap. The fast starting British riders seemed to fade badly after good first 500s. So where do we stand on pacing for a Kilo?

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Old 17-03.-2006, 09:28 PM   #17
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Chris Hoy faded for the 1st time in a kilo!
I dont think that meant he got it wrong, I just think he had a bad night and Kersten had a great one.
Remember the 1,2 and 3 in the Olympics were also 1, 2 and 3 in their respective first lap times.
Watching Ben's ride yesturday he didnt look to be pacing himself!
He just died less than the other two and totaly deserved his win.

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Bayley is back! Cracking Kierin final.

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Old 18-03.-2006, 10:24 AM   #18
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Texted Hayden Godfrey after the Kilo (5th in 1.03.9). He was happy with a PB and good warm up for the Teams Pursuit. Noted that he clearly paced himself for the ride and Kersten won it with a good last lap. The fast starting British riders seemed to fade badly after good first 500s. So where do we stand on pacing for a Kilo?

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I don't know yet, but from the little I saw on the TV, it looked like (I could be wrong, but will find out from Marv when he gets home) the British got their gearing wrong. All rode too small a gear. Their technique fell apart at the higher cadence needed for their gear choice and they lactated badly after 1.5 laps and just blew apart. Their race was finished after the 375m mark and going down hill from there. Kersten did pace his kilo. Take note of how he rode the straights compered to the bends; the slight variations in the tranistions into & out of each bend. You can not judge a pacing effort from split times only - all riders will fade.
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Old 28-03.-2006, 10:12 PM   #19
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I don't know yet, but from the little I saw on the TV, it looked like (I could be wrong, but will find out from Marv when he gets home) the British got their gearing wrong. All rode too small a gear. Their technique fell apart at the higher cadence needed for their gear choice and they lactated badly after 1.5 laps and just blew apart. Their race was finished after the 375m mark and going down hill from there. Kersten did pace his kilo. Take note of how he rode the straights compered to the bends; the slight variations in the tranistions into & out of each bend. You can not judge a pacing effort from split times only - all riders will fade.

if thats the case then that'll cause some shouting in the gb camp
they are very precise about details and a slip up like that could mean heads will roll!
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Old 29-03.-2006, 12:27 PM   #20
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didnt the brits put the wrong size gear on jonny clay in the team pursuit final a few years ago at the worlds??? i seem to remember reading about it

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didnt the brits put the wrong size gear on jonny clay in the team pursuit final a few years ago at the worlds??? i seem to remember reading about it

once is a mistake, twice is unforgiveable

I once read a quote from an English bike shop owner (refering to fixed wheel gear ratios) who said...

"When you are feeling good, the gear doesn't matter. When you are feeling bad, the gear doesn't help."
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Old 29-03.-2006, 03:23 PM   #22
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I would have thought though that blokes like Queally and Hoy would know exactly whats going on their bikes...
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Old 31-03.-2006, 12:52 AM   #23
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i agree. nothing to do with gearing. kersten was probably the most on form track cyclist in the world over last 3-6 months, was always going to win it.

but christ he's a fairy....the way he carries on, cries, then continually gets into a drama...he's as bad as jana pittman. just shut up, ride your bike fast, try and fit in and do yourself a favour mate...
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Old 31-03.-2006, 09:34 AM   #24
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Atleast he not like "Ok Tim Tams throw me a wad of cash,Ok KFC throw me a wad aswell"
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Atleast he not like "Ok Tim Tams throw me a wad of cash,Ok KFC throw me a wad aswell"

I agree, as much as I like Ryan B's riding, I think his media skills could do with some work. I thought he made some very unprofessional comments after the keirin regarding the riding skills of Ben Kersten. It's bad form to publicly criticise a team mate. Shane Kelly handled the media very well, even though it was obvious they were trying to provoke comments out of him!

As for Ben Kersten being a fairy, that's a bit harsh. The world of elite cycling would be a boring place if the athletes were all stone-faced, cliche' sprouting robots. I think there would be a few of us who would have reacted the same way if we had just won the biggest race of our lives and beaten the worlds best in the process. I say good on him.
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