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21-02.-2006, 05:23 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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And you have posted what appears to be anti-American and anti-Israel views on this forum.

Obviously, it is no ones business what you two discuss in private.

The belittling public threats of account suspension, however, are there for anyone to scrutinize.

First of all I am not anti-American.

I do however find on this website a distinct lack of knowledge about issues concerning foreign affairs. from some American posters
In particular there were some preposterous views expressed about WW2, Marshall Plan, Vietnam.
In that context, I agreed with FredC about Carerra's claim as to the views of the American lady whom he corresponds with.

As regards Israel : I oppose Zionism, totally and absolutely.

And as for the removal of Carerra's account - I have already stated to Carerra that this is not a step which I would be happy to take but I will take that step if he continues to write messages containing lies to justify his own prejudice.
The choice is his.

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21-02.-2006, 05:59 AM	#212
Colorado Ryder Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,229	Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses [QUOTE=limerickman]I do however find on this website a distinct lack of knowledge about issues concerning foreign affairs. from some American posters In particular there were some preposterous views expressed about WW2, Marshall Plan, Vietnam.[QUOTE] As well as the preposterous view expressed that most electricity generated is by oil. Or the even more preposterous views that some peoples are perfidious.

21-02.-2006, 06:31 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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As well as the preposterous view expressed that most electricity generated is by oil.

Paul Roberts book/analysis "The End of Oil" suggests that that most electricity is generated by oil.

21-02.-2006, 06:36 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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Originally Posted by limerickman

Paul Roberts book/analysis "The End of Oil" suggests that that most electricity is generated by oil.

Guess Paul doesn't know as much as he claims to. Do we need to look at the stats again? But again maybe in Europe and other parts most electricity is generated using oil. In the US coal, nuclear, and fast gaining is natural gas.

21-02.-2006, 06:37 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

[QUOTE=Colorado Ryder][QUOTE=limerickman]I do however find on this website a distinct lack of knowledge about issues concerning foreign affairs. from some American posters
In particular there were some preposterous views expressed about WW2, Marshall Plan, Vietnam.

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As well as the preposterous view expressed that most electricity generated is by oil. Or the even more preposterous views that some peoples are perfidious.

Most electricity is generated by coal-fired power stations.Who thought it was generated by oil?
Of course oil-fired boilers are used but they are inefficient compared to coal-fired boilers.
Perhaps someone has mentioned the generation of "energy" as opposed to the generation of "electrical energy".
Even bikes are powered by "energy".As are sailboats.

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21-02.-2006, 06:40 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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You can take it up with Paul Roberts.

His book is called "The End of Oil"
ISBN number : 0 7475 7075 2.

21-02.-2006, 06:41 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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Generation of energy is what Paul Roberts discusses.

You've heard of him?

21-02.-2006, 06:47 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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Most electricity is generated by coal-fired power stations.Who thought it was generated by oil?

Limerickman made the assertion that oil is predominantly used for electricity production.

Quote:

Originally Posted by limerickman

Energy is the issue : oil is currently the means for generating energy.

21-02.-2006, 06:48 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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Originally Posted by Carrera

...The only red area is direct incitement to violence which is something I don't go in for.

I would have said that calling for war is incitement to violence. It appears that you do go in for it, Carrera.

21-02.-2006, 06:58 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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Originally Posted by Colorado Ryder

Limerickman made the assertion that oil is predominantly used for electricity production.

When we discussed oil on another thread, I asserted that USA was wholly dependent upon oil for energy.

(see my initial message and your message 8 on this http://www.cyclingforums.com/showth...rgy#post2551255
link).

You replied on that thread about electricty.

As it happens Paul Roberts book confirms that oil is the source for America's energy requirements including electricity.

21-02.-2006, 07:06 AM

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Energy = Electricity.

As it happens you are wrong. The US uses very little oil in the production of electricity. Coal, nuclear, water, and natural gas produce more electricity in the US than oil does.
Oil in the US is used primarily in the US for our millions upon millions of gas wasting cars. It is used for transportation of goods. It is used in industrial processes.

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21-02.-2006, 07:14 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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Originally Posted by limerickman

Preposterous views run amuck in this particular section of cyclingforums. That's somewhat the point of having a "Your Bloody Soap Box" forum.

As others before me have stated: if you believe there to be false information in a topic - prove it incorrect, if you still don't like the views in a topic - pick another one to read, and if you still don't like the views - it's probably best to just stay away from the Soap Box all together.

The only person openly calling for and threatening account suspensions is you. Of course, as moderator, you are the only person in this forum with the power to suspend accounts. As such, I would hope you to be unbiased.

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21-02.-2006, 07:22 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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Energy doesn't equal electricity, as it happens.

Electricity is but one byproduct of energy.

On the "we don't need oil anymore, what now" thread, I specifically discussed energy, as opposed to electricity.
I note that I never referred to electricity on messages 1 - 6.

You copied one line posted by me in message 6 and directly misquoted me on that thread.
Just like you're trying to do here.

http://www.cyclingforums.com/showth...rgy#post2551255

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21-02.-2006, 07:28 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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Originally Posted by limerickman

Energy doesn't equal electricity, as it happens.

Yeah. Electricity isn't energy.

Let's look at what else you posted.

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Originally Posted by limerickman

(a) the entire US/World infrastructure is engineered to process only one fuel - oil.The capital expenditure required to reconfigure all of the power station, cars, planes, trains,
manaufacturing processes, domestic light and heating systems, would
run in to literally billions.

(b) the time line for all this reconfiguration would take literally years.

So the Middle East and other oil producing nations ultimately hold the upper hand - even if a new environmentally friendsly cheap source is found.

Power stations in the US don't burn oil to generate electricity. Now why would they need to be converted? Domestic lighting? Powered by electricity. Oh thats right.....electricity isn't energy.

21-02.-2006, 07:30 AM

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Re: Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

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Energy = Electricity...

Not in any physics book that I've read.

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