Mail Condemns Guantanamo Abuses

stevebaby

The final arbiter in any question of definition should surely be the Oxford Dictionary.
The Oxford does not mention "nationality" as a definition of race.
I'm sure that you could find "nationality" as a definition of race in a german dictionary,pre-1945.
Some more appropriate phrases might be- "xenophobic","chauvinist","patriotic",or "honest and fair criticism of a group of people,the majority of whom agree with the actions of their regime or they wouldn't have voted for them".

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stevebaby

1) Ever hear of the monroe doctrine? The doctrine of "manifest destiny"?If that isn't a prejudice that the us is superior to other nations,what is?
2)Discriminatory and abusive behaviour towards members of other race(s).The us has been meddling,interfering,corrupting,bribing,attacking,invading,robbing and generally "discriminating" against other "races" for most of its history.
I can't think of a country where the us hasn't interfered in some way.Can you?

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Carrera

The U.S. has a heck of a lot in common with ancient Imperial Athens, a naval superpower that forcefully imposed democracy on other regimes. This is what Bush is apparently trying to do and he has this vision of America creating a safer world by importing democracy.
However, just to make a point: We don't have democracy in the U.K. and neither do we have freedom of expression. What we do have is a hollow arrangement of 3 political parties who make decisions on behalf of a population they have little in common with. None of them represents the working classes and all of them have leaders and an elite who come from upper class backgrounds.
Personally I'd like to see the Americans and the British go out and get themselves a democracy and stop acting like sheep (being spoon fed all this baloney from corrupt politicians about how free they're supposed to be). So free, politicians decide when and how to go to war without even a referendum.

EoinC

Exactly - failure to ratify the International Court agreement in case it gets used against their own.

EoinC

So, do it to it, Pruitt. Get down from that keyboard, Carrera, and go and change your Country. If you don't, you're just being a sheep like the rest of your chums - and you know what we Kiwi's do to sheep don't you?
NZ - The World's next Superpower, bringing democracy, Ug boots and nasal vowels to the oppressed Nations of Planet Earth.

Scotty_Dog

My interjectory comments within this topic have not been about stopping criticism of U.S. government policy and actions. Far from it.

It is all to do with Limerickman's heavy-handed and unjust role as moderator. He threatens individuals with account suspension, whose opinions differ from his own, by labeling them as racists or as stereotyping others. Yet, he openly commits those very same acts without suffering any repercussions himself (several times within this topic alone).

I simply want a fair moderator, not censorship of opinions. Either start handing out suspensions to anyone (himself included?) who commits the said acts, or let people speak their mind without fear of reprisal. Be consistent - do not pick and choose possible account suspensions based on differing opinions.

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darkboong

Reality check #1
The world is awash with censorship dude. Get used to it. The only rights you have are the ones that are granted to you.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's just the way things work.

At present, here in the UK, we are in the process of losing citizens rights that have stood since feudal times. As incredible as it may seem we seem to have lost protections that Serfs enjoyed over 800 years ago, all in the name of the "War on Terror". It appears that the US is also regressing into Feudalism.

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FredC

I'm afraid most of your posts are just garbage.
Obviously you haven't followed Careeras postings where he continually took an unfounded anti-Moslem stance which were 90% inaccurate, and refabricated to suit his purpose.

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Scotty_Dog

Dude, I am quite aware of censorship in the worldwide stage. But this is an internet forum, and as such should be fairly easy to keep people's rights in check. Yet certain radical ideas and opinions not agreed with by the moderator are censored, and certain radical ideas agreed with by the moderator are not censored.

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Scotty_Dog

As one of Lim's best cheerleaders, I have come to expect nothing less of you.


Despite your obvious beliefs, I am not a proponent of Carrera's opinions, I am simply a proponent of uncensored opinions.

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limerickman

Myself and Fred do not agree on a number of issues - so you're accusation about Fred is incorrect.

With regard to censorship - Carerra has expressed very anti-Islamic, anti-Palestinian views on this forum.
He posted a series of lies with the objective of trying to justify his prejudice.

Both in public and in private, I have corresponded with Carerra on this issue.

The fact that he chose to ignore requests - is ultimately between me and him.

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morelike hypocrisy.

Carrera

I'm afraid it would be impossible for me to change the political direction the country is going in. The simple fact is the vast majority of people don't agree with my views and no amount of warnings, comments or predictions will change that.
Since I first started airing my views years ago, I've been sniggered and laughed at for my political position - that enforced multiculturalism and reckless immigration won't lead to strength in diversity but weakness through diversity.
This is something the Greek generals and military understood perfectly well centuries ago. Did you ever wonder why it was so easy for Caesar to conquer Britain or heard of the saying "divide and rule". Well, that's what they did. Conquering armies divided the many ethnic groups in a country, armed some, sewed division between others and exploited the cracks in the facade of alleged unity.
This is a view that will inevitably upset people but if you read Plato carefully, you'll find he rejected multicultural societies as being flawed (and these were the people who invented democracy in the first place).

Carrera

Any private messages may not have reached me as I often blitz my spam and may delete mail I don't intend to.

Carrera

What can I say? I seem to have expressed opinions that have really got up one or two peoples noses on occasions. Of course, I actually speak my mind in public not just on the internet. What I say by e-mail, I tell people directly. Not only websites but the Government too will try to shut people up. In fact, I happen to know George Galloway voted positive for that religious bill the Government wanted to pass that would prosecute people over criticism of religion and thereby try to push censorship and religous dogma on a supposedly free people. Yes, "prosecute" is the word.
I don't care whether the Government goes down that road or not since I believe in free speech - period and will continue to speak my mind as others should too.
Muhammad Ali upset people with his views and they didn't want him in the country for many years. He was willing to go to prison for what he believed.
Everyone has the right to free expression, opinion and protest. The only red area is direct incitement to violence which is something I don't go in for.