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11-02.-2006, 07:34 AM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
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oh, thanks... seems then once you puncture a clinicher, that's it for the tyre... that would make it a pretty exxy exercise what advantage has the clinicher over tubed tyres then? for a tubed tyre, you just change a tube (approx $5) and you're off.... does that mean you carry spare tyres when you ride?
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11-02.-2006, 08:51 AM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
Rob, its the other way around.
622c = Clincher, what you have now, it uses replacable tubes inside the trye. Tubular of Singles have the outer skin stiched over a tube, one pop its gone.  The rim profile is different and they are glued on.
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11-02.-2006, 09:44 AM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
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Actually I just did this about 1.5mths ago on my Vittoria Rubino Pros. Gave it a nice shine. But after one ride, the shine was gone. A bit too much effort just for shine. I also had to be careful not to get the armour all on the rims. I was also thinking of using very fine steel wool to clean the braking rims ... would I be doing something silly? At the moment, I have just been using alcohol swabs to wipe down the rims when they get a bit grotty. |
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11-02.-2006, 09:12 PM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
I used to use Rubino Pros for a long time; they're a good, cheap (very much so from probikekit), dependable tyre. But once I took a ride on the Open Corsas (and later the GP 4 Seasons and 3000s) I just couldn't go back to a "mid-range" tyre again
 I usually carry three or four glueless patches and a spare tube wherever I go. (as well as a multitool, spare powerlink, and some tyre levers) Quote:
Mavic make a special brick/eraser block type thing for cleaning brake surfaces. Like you though, I just use an isopropyl alcohol wipe every now and then. And most of the time not even that -- just a wet rag and hold it against the braking surface while pushing the bike forward.. seems to get a lot of black gunk off that way. I'm way too lazy to clean the actual tyre though  a brush-off to get rid of any wandering stuck bits, yes, but that's it!
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12-02.-2006, 10:22 AM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
I must go thru fig tree droppings every ride. The Armorall makes the tyre easier to clean. Nice blue, and the yellow writing is brighter.
Now to clean the chain...
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12-02.-2006, 02:14 PM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
I sometimes wipe the sidewalls after a wet, sloppy ride
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13-02.-2006, 09:20 AM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
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I find braking gets the crap off pretty effectively!  |
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13-02.-2006, 11:13 AM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
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Yes I'm using a floor pump.Normally 100-110psi front and rear.Do you know much about the Vittoria Evo Kx? They look okay.Bit more Kevlar in them than the Corsa. |
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13-02.-2006, 03:07 PM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
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13-02.-2006, 06:51 PM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
I inflate presta to "max by mouth" before inserting tube in tyre.
No pinch flats. And only use conti or michi tubes.
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14-02.-2006, 09:41 PM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
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I do the same. i also check the tube is not pinched before inflating. I've posted my views on the GP4000 tyres - I found them to be very easily punctured. The Conti Force/Attack combo I think are just fantastic. The local importer's guarantee is also good - I had a Force tyre suffer a puncture (small piece of glass) during a race, when the tyres were almost worn out. The importer honoured the guarantee and I received a replacement Force this morning in the mail, all for $29. Only downside is the Force/Attack tyres are soft and wear reasonably fast, but they roll very very nicely and have heaps of grip - much more than the 4000. My $0.02 worth. |
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15-02.-2006, 08:57 AM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
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Damn, I've just bought some 4000s, but I haven't worn out the Pro Races yet, so yet to try them. Are they worse than Pro Races for punctures? |
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08-03.-2006, 09:19 PM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
I only have two words for anyone seeking zero puntures...
Continental Tyres |
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09-03.-2006, 07:38 AM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
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I found the 4000 to be worse than the Pro Race. I have, however, had numerous (3) punctures with the replacement Conti Force. Only one of those was apinch flat - the rest were all punctures caused by small but needle like pieces of glass. The tyre is not any different to the two previous Force tyres I have run on that bike, both of those remained puncture free until 99% worn out (i.e. threads were showing). Everything else being equal, which I think it is/was, it demonstrates how fickle punctures can be. So, I still favour Conti FOrce/Attack but can not wait to see if tubeless tyres, when they make it to road bikes, will improve things. Logically I think they might mean pinch flats might be reduced (important because I weigh 106 kg and race on a course that is very rough) but I am not sure whether punctures from objects will be reduced or not. I understand Shimano has produced a tubeless wheel but none of the manufacturers have made tyres for them yet. It will be interesting to see how they compare on the weight stakes, as the design parameters will be a little different to tubeless MTB tyres, where low pressure seems to a be a design goal and hence requires thicker and heavier sidewalls. |
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20-09.-2006, 03:28 PM
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Re: Flats..Arrrggghhh!
My first post as I've only just joined the forum.
I am having a dilemma. The are a I live in is surrounded by industrial suburbs and new housing estates (lots of contstruction and assoicated tradesmen and delivery trucks), so I have been getting a lot of flats in the past few months and have finally had enough. I am currently riding a Michi pro race2 as a front tire and Conti GP4000 as a rear (bike came with Pro Races but I slashed one beyone repair whilst interstate and only 400k old!). I have only done about 2500K since getting the bike but am averaging a flat about every 400-500K. I am just starting to ride more, so this will equate to once every 10-14 days if it keeps up! I'm after a robust tire in a 23mm width. If it ends up being a bit heavier/not quite rolling as fast then that is fine (not having to stop for 5mins to repair a flat on every 2nd long ride will eliminate the time difference!). Perhaps I am just prone ot bad luck, but from earlier posts in this forum it seems that GP4000 aren't that great for puncture resistance (I was led to believe that they were meant to be great???). I weigh 80kg and ride with 110-120PSI in my tires which is within the limits of the tires, so it is just a matter of finding a tire that matches the road surfaces I have to endure, so something virtually bulletproof would be good. Has anyone got any good recommendations for Conti's, perhaps Gatorskins? If I can keep the cost down obviously that would be a good thing to, so I'm trying to avoid paying $90+ for each tire (although even GP4000 can be found online for about half of what they sell for in local shops). cheers John |
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