Bush's State Of Union Speech

buckybux

You guys are all taking Bush way too serious on this speech. It was a publicity speech meant to make us US citizens feel good about ourselves. Karl Rove knows how to appeal to the people and make us feel good.

You got to watch where Bush's feet take him. What he says, and then what he does are two different things. He says we got to win in Iraq, but he is not willing to committ the resources necessary to finish the job. But then I think Iraq is just a modern day Vietnam, the war is unwinnable because anything the US wants, the Iraqi people will be against. It is the occupation that is the problem.

With all the scandals involving the Republican Party, and the trouble caused by Bush's illegal wire tapping, he will be busy just trying to survive. But beware, there is nothing like a new war as a distraction for domestic problems.

FredC

Hey, and guess what? Today Feb.2nd is really groundhog day.

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Wurm

Does that mean that if Chimpy pulls his head out of his ass and sees his shadow, that we'll have 6 more weeks (months, years) of war??

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"Bush is the first President to admit to an impeachable offense."

- John Dean, former Counsel to the President (Nixon)

The aim of big corporations is to separate fools from their money all of the time and ordinary folks from their money most of the time. The rest of us must fend for ourselves.

davidmc

You seem to be overly fixated on pop-culture icon's Madonna, Schwarzennegger, Mohammed Ali, ect...are you of the mindset that popularity determines ability. It would appear that way reading many of your posts Taking a line from Monty Python-"Now for something completely different." See pic's.

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MountainPro

good and evil?

that explains that then.

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darkboong

Is there the possibility or precedent of that limit being suspended/removed while a state of War continues to exist ? Several elements of the consitution have already bitten the dust in the name of National Security, why would the limit of terms be sacrosanct ? I don't think it's a serious problem because I figure they'll have another Bush in the wings to perch on the throne.

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jhuskey

I believe there is a provision ,but I will need to look it up and review it before I make comment and appear more foolish than usual.
I believe a state of national emergency must be declared and yes there is another Bush presently serving as a governor at present.

BTW: Bill Clinton has been the most vocal in recent times about modifying the 22nd amendment making a third term possible.

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jhuskey

It should read no more than two terms or one bad term, which ever comes first.

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MountainPro

it seems that it's the people of California that are overly fixated with pop culture, hence the blurring of borders between showbiz and 'politics' and the political appontment of a movie star.

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Colorado Ryder

Why would the limit of terms be sacrosanct? Here is the process for an amendment to change the Constitution.

The Constitution provides two processes by which amendments can be proposed and approved

1. Congress proposes amendments.
   As is the case with the flag burning amendment, both houses of Congress approve by two-thirds votes a resolution calling for the amendment. The resolution does not require the president's signature. To become effective, the proposed amendment must then be "ratified" or approved by the legislatures of three-fourths of the states. Congress typically places a time limit of seven years for ratification by the states.
2. The states propose amendments.
   The legislatures of two-thirds of the states vote to call for a convention at which constitutional amendments can be proposed. Amendments proposed by the convention would again require ratification by the legislatures of three-fourths of the states.

All twenty-seven amendments, including the Bill of Rights have been added through the first method. The Constitution has never been amended using the second process.

While over 10,000 have been proposed, only twenty-one amendments to the Constitution have been adopted since final ratification of the Bill of Rights in 1791.

davidmc

Exactly. I wouldn't worry about Dubya sticking @ as he is the only president to have knowingly/complicitly committed an impeachable offense according to John Dean. Additionally, he has the fewest accomplishments (unnecessary tax cuts & screwing up medicare, among other transgressions; are not considered accomplishments ) of any president in modern history.
To take a phrase from Wurm, "Harken ye sheep":

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

Carrera

Maybe you have a point. Perhaps I have an inner yearning to become rich and famous and it's funny I read several biographies on all the characters you mentioned including Madge.

Carrera

Most Americans seem to be realsing Iraq was basically a lame duck where threats are concerned which is why Bush is in trouble. My main concern over Bush, in truth, has been due to his failure to adhere to Geneva Convention rules and his exporting of terror suspects to face torture.
Colin Powell opposed all of that from the onset.
What I said was it was a good speech in some ways that Bush delivered but that doesn't mean Bush is off the hook by a long shot. I just meant it had been delivered well and I agreed with one or two points.
I agree that freedom and libery should be exported overseas but never at the point of a gun.
I think Arnold Schwarzennegger should become President.

davidmc

You were doing quite well up until your last comment. General Powell realized that he had been lied to & shut-out of the loop by Cheney/Rummy. He did the right thing-resign. I like his Pottery Barn rule about Iraq & other foreign entanglements-"You break it, you own it." Seems as desperately as the congressional repub's want to get out of Iraq so that they have a chance of reelection in 06', thier wish is far from being fulfilled. Casualties continue to mount daily Nice going Cheney errr...I mean Bush

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )