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Old 10-07.-2008, 05:17 AM   #2506
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My first wife is a J.A.P. (at least that is what she called herself) from Bawston. Her nose is a little bigger than the typical Japanese girl's.

I wished someone in my past geneaology had of mixed it up a little.
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Old 10-07.-2008, 05:55 AM   #2507
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One last post though, "tomato gravy" ???? What the hell is that? Did you say stuff like that to her parents? My mom would have hit you with a pot also.

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It's a Philly thing. Among Italians in Philly, if the sauce contains meat, it is gravy. Marinara sauce, Pesto sauce, but gravy if it has meatballs. So, if you are eating Spagetti and meatballs, then you better ask them to pass the "gravy" or "forgetaboutit" Also, they usually refer to pasta as "macaroni." Now, I have created some waves among my Philly Italian friends by asking them how you refer to Bolanese (sp) Sauce, but they say no its just Spagetti Bolanese, you don't ever call it a sauce. I know that in NY, it is different; and like most things NY, you folks just got it wrong. Just like we would never call an long Italian sandwich a hero or sub here, it's a hoagie. And, no, despite my wife's heritage, no member of her family, on either side, ever threw or hit me with a pot. On my Irish side, I have been hit with a beer bottle or two, but it was usually for something serious like saying Bushmills is better than Jamesons, wearing Orange on St. Patrick's Day, or by suggesting that Cromwell was just a little misunderstood.

Sorry Tyson. You better start posting power numbers or the kids are going to misbehave.
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Old 10-07.-2008, 06:11 AM   #2508
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My first wife is a J.A.P. (at least that is what she called herself) from Bawston. Her nose is a little bigger than the typical Japanese girl's.

If you have been married twice, the first wife is the "ex-wife." If you have more than two, then it is perfectly appropriate to refer to her as the first wife, to distinguish her from the second, third, or fourth, etc. If you really are a man with baggage, then, the best tactic is to refer to the woman you are currently married to as "the current wife," and any other previous one as "one of my ex-wives," leaving the exact number somewhat vague.

And, if you're "first wife" truly was a J.A.P., then there was no risk of ever being hit by a pot, only the telephone while she was calling for Chinese takeout. As Michael Corleone said: Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in"
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Old 10-07.-2008, 06:14 AM   #2509
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They're not . . . that's the point. People laugh and joke at serious subjects to take the edge off. As I said, if you read in context, my wife's family (and my own) does not fit any cultural stereotype-despite her Latina heritage, and for that matter, its my own children's heritage. If you listen to George Lopez, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, Woody Allen, and for that matter any relevant comedian, past or present, you hear a lot of the same type of self-deprecating cultural humor. On the other hand, Jesse Helms. . . . not funny, and not sympathetic even in death, (although the postumous revelation that Strom Thurmond fathered a mixed race out of wedlock certainly was ironic, for its sheer hippocracy alone.) My Prada wearing lawyer wife supposedly cursing at me in Spanish while she throws pots and pans, is a pretty funny image. And, I don't believe that she (or any other female family member of hers) ever wore a tube top, to a funeral or elsewhere, that's why the image was so funny. (She does make a mean tomato gravy though). Japanese race promotors sending Tyson on a 35km detour, was also pretty darn ironic, if not funny to everone else but Tyson. . . because it was inconsistent with the stereotype of the ordinarily meticulous Japanese.

Believe me, if you follow the trend of the US Supreme Court's jurisprudence, you will be much more concerned about the so called humorless "color-blind" Justices, than the ones that recognize cultural differences and realize that there is still work to be done --even if they attempt to remedy discrimination with a sardonic sense of humor. I think it is obvious to anyone that read any of these offhand jokes (other than apparently to you) that they were made with affection and not with any intent to denegrate a particular race or ethnicity. But this is Tyson's thread about his personal power quest so I will let it go and stay on topic in the future.

Unlike you you, I am not going to go into a diatribe to explain myself. Suffice to say that those who joke and trivialize these matters (professionals notwithstanding) more often than not, are not the butt of said jokes. Those that frequently are the subject matter of this apparently frivilous endeavor are usually the most sensitive to it, and the fact that I'm African American will assist you in understanding that I don't care for stereotyping of any culture - be it Japanese, Irish, Italian, etc...I'm done with this dialogue...
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Old 10-07.-2008, 06:26 AM   #2510
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If you have been married twice, the first wife is the "ex-wife." If you have more than two, then it is perfectly appropriate to refer to her as the first wife, to distinguish her from the second, third, or fourth, etc. If you really are a man with baggage, then, the best tactic is to refer to the woman you are currently married to as "the current wife," and any other previous one as "one of my ex-wives," leaving the exact number somewhat vague.

And, if you're "first wife" truly was a J.A.P., then there was no risk of ever being hit by a pot, only the telephone while she was calling for Chinese takeout. As Michael Corleone said: Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in"

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Old 10-07.-2008, 06:31 AM   #2511
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Alright y'all, pour on the Polish jokes!.. I've heard them all and it made my skin like that of an armadillo (BTW, I'm not a plumber but indeed, my Polish wife is a nurse. ). The only way to HTFU is to practice, practice, practice...
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are usually the most sensitive to it,

Certainly, I did not mean to offend even the most sensitive. Seriously. IMHO, if we can't begin to acknowledges the subtle and sometimes funny cultural differences, then a dialogue about our common humanity becomes even more difficult.
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Alright y'all, pour on the Polish jokes!.. I've heard them all and it made my skin like that of an armadillo (BTW, I'm not a plumber but indeed, my Polish wife is a nurse. ). The only way to HTFU is to practice, practice, practice...

Hopefully it tans better than my crappy (mostly) Irish skin.
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Sorry to interrupt this lively skin colour conversation, but would anyone be offended if I mentioned something about cycling?

Music and the importance thereof.

I always remember RapDaddyo at the beginning of this thread when I was doing 140Watt L4 intervals, telling me to not be too ambitious and to keep it at 140W, because I would derive a lot of benefit by doing so.

In keeping with this philosophy, this morning I was purposely doing my L4 intervals at a low wattage. Anyway, even at this low wattage (290 W) I was beginning to mentally flag in the middle of the second interval, when all of a sudden 'The Bucket' by the Kings Of Leon was the next track up. Wow, I did a Landis and belted the rest of the interval with the help of the next track -'Diamond' by Battles.

Again in the 3rd interval I started to mentally wilt, when up popped an old inspirational favourite of mine - 'Holding Out For A Hero' by Bonnie Tyler, and I was off like I had a firecracker up my rear end.

The point I'm making is, that without the music I probably wouldn't have completed 2 intervals, never mind 3. I appreciate that music might not work for everybody, but if you haven't already tried doing your intervals to music, give it a whirl - it works. Tyson

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Old 10-07.-2008, 11:47 AM   #2515
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Music does help I was surprised at the mellow selection of music RD used at the time but I find my selections getting that way to. Especially during the first 20 minutes of a one hour effort I'm better off with easy listening or no music at all to find the right pace. On the trainer trance helped with the harder efforts but on the DIY free motion rollers just taking a drink or getting out of the saddle is great entertainment and I go for an hour without a break.

Ooops I almost forgot FWIW my wife is pure Sicilian.



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Sorry to interrupt this lively skin colour conversation, but would anyone be offended if I mentioned something about cycling?

Music and the importance thereof.

I always remember RapDaddyo at the beginning of this thread when I was doing 140Watt L4 intervals, telling me to not be too ambitious and to keep it at 140W, because I would derive a lot of benefit by doing so.

In keeping with this philosophy, this morning I was purposely doing my L4 intervals at a low wattage. Anyway, even at this low wattage (290 W) I was beginning to mentally flag in the middle of the second interval, when all of a sudden 'The Bucket' by the Kings Of Leon was the next track up. Wow, I did a Landis and belted the rest of the interval with the help of the next track -'Diamond' by Battles.

Again in the 3rd interval I started to mentally wilt, when up popped an old inspirational favourite of mine - 'Holding Out For A Hero' by Bonnie Tyler, and I was off like I had a firecracker up my rear end.

The point I'm making is, that without the music I probably wouldn't have completed 2 intervals, never mind 3. I appreciate that music might not work for everybody, but if you haven't already tried doing your intervals to music, give it a whirl - it works. Tyson

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Old 10-07.-2008, 12:17 PM   #2516
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As a newbie to regular indoor workouts, I have set up my training room with music and video capabilities.

So far it's been TdF highlight DVDs and definitely the power goes up as the ride approaches the sprint!

I haven't yet tried the music approach yet. I do like riding along with the other riders on video, so I could probably do with some additions to my paltry collection. I'll give the music a go soon and see how I get on.
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Old 11-07.-2008, 12:39 AM   #2517
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I have my ipod shuffled lined up with 60 minutes of music selected for various types of intervals. I have listened to the same tracks on each indoor training session for the last 6 months and the tracks have not become old to me yet.

The tracks that I use are not music that I would typically listen to off the bike, but on the bike, like Tyson says, it can amp up the effort level a notch or two more. The training session this morning was one of those exceptional efforts that was very discomforting during, but pleasing sense of accomplishment at the end.
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Ooops I almost forgot FWIW my wife is pure Sicilian.

well, this explains why nobody else on this board but Tyson has any energy left to ride.

As for indoor distraction, I am a big fan of DVD sets, non cycling related. The HBO shows, the Wire, Sopranos, etc, were all good, and I also like Weeds, but it is a half hour. Some of my best rides were watching shows that I really enjoyed. I also like to watch sports and do intervals during commericals. I find music alone to be a little tougher.
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well, this explains why nobody else on this board but Tyson has any energy left to ride.

As for indoor distraction, I am a big fan of DVD sets, non cycling related. The HBO shows, the Wire, Sopranos, etc, were all good, and I also like Weeds, but it is a half hour. Some of my best rides were watching shows that I really enjoyed. I also like to watch sports and do intervals during commericals. I find music alone to be a little tougher.
I rarely listen to music while training, and when I do it's something very generic like Trance or Techno. Favorite music would be too distracting. Learning to cope with the pain and the voices in one's head is a skill to be practiced. It takes years to get all those voices on your side. Ignoring them while training doesn't help on race day. Having a song going through your head doesn't help either.
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I rarely listen to music while training, and when I do it's something very generic like Trance or Techno. Favorite music would be too distracting. Learning to cope with the pain and the voices in one's head is a skill to be practiced. It takes years to get all those voices on your side. Ignoring them while training doesn't help on race day. Having a song going through your head doesn't help either.

You might (or might not ) like a couple of my tracks then.

I added some to my blog today. I have more, but those were enough for todays post. I really like Master of the Universe for trance in the pain zone. You may not get a good idea of it with just the 30 second sample.

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