It's killing me but..........

bubsy

Boy when you set goals you really don't mess around!

I too have a goal of 5w kg by December 6th. You & your story have inspired me to become a power junkey, I have been following this thread since November 07 and started training with a powertap in December 08 I had a ftp of 220w then and now at 270w so @ 68kg I need to drop to 60kg and put out 300w. The weight wont be the part that bothers me just getting to 300w, it might not happen for a while but your never say never attitude is what makes me believe l will get there.

Keep up the hard work Tyson as l am sure there are more lurkers out there that are still following this thread and are trulely inspired by what can be acheived and working on there own goals.

Cheers Brian.

Sillyoldtwit

Being a chocodonutaolic the weight is the hardest thing for me to control.
I'm so sick of being overweight , I've got to crack it this time. I can't as some suggest drop half a pound a week. Psychologically that doesn't suit me.

The weather forecast for this morning was wrong and out came the sun, and on to his bike like a rocket leapt this maniac. Cycling on a weekday is never as fast as 5am on Sunday morning. However, just to prove to myself that losing 3 pounds in 3 days won't make any difference to my power, I hammered it in 28C with very high humidity. I made it to my first 'time check point' in 43 minutes 30 seconds - only 30 seconds slower than my PB.
After that I deviated from my normal course to avoid rivers of mud, so have nothing to compare with after that.
Weighed in at 72.6K after the ride, and intend not to put it all back on again.

Anyway, keep up the good work Brian - just tell yourself, if that sillyoldtwit can do 300watts plus for an hour, so can I. Tyson

How old are you by the way? Don't tell me 69!

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bubsy

Mmm chocolate, Being a chocoholic myself l know how hard it is to resist those delicious temptations staring us in the face everywhere we go (Old Jamacia Rum'n Raison is one of my fav's, and don,t even get me started on bakerys there's not much I don't devour If I enter one of those.) but like you the time has come for me to get serious about my weight or more importantly P/W ratio.
Getting outdoors for a ride can do wonders for motivation I'm sure but here in Australia we have very little bad weather however daylight can be a problem for some in winter working 9-5 jobs.
No I'm not in your age cat but after 3 yrs of serious training (or so I thought) I had come to the conclusion that I was never going to get faster and decided that losing weight (ala Michael Rasmussan the chicken) and hand picking the races with plent of climbs to suit me was my only option to become more competitive. After following your rapid improvment with a steady diet of intervals based around power not heart rate or PB times on loops or riding routes I have seen huge gains in speed on roads and climbs that I was sure I would never achieve.

Oh yeah my age I will be 32 in October so plenty of time for progression in the future but at 169.5cm putting out big watts may be a tall order even 300w may be towards the upper end of my genetic limits so dropping weight is still a big part of the puzzle, It's phisically easier than raising FTP but mentally its tougher staying out of the fridge and away from area's where there is easy access to tasty treats,

however on to 67kg and 280w!

P.S. Japan is a little to far to travell for a race for now but I,ll race Ya to 5w kg

Brian

Sillyoldtwit

LOL It's getting crowded in here with people aiming for 5w/kg. Will any of us ever attain that figure though!?!?
I'm sure some of the regulars are saying to themselves, "Pie in the sky".

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bigwillie013

Isn't it funny that we're all so different. Hearing you guys talking about loosing weigth and seeing this being more demanding than raising power makes me smile. I have to look out that my weight doesn't drop too quick or too low My girlfriend liked me more when I weighed 20 pounds more and being in the gym every day - which is only 2 years ago! It was incredibly hard for me to gain lean muscle mass in these days. I'm exactly 6 feet and weigh now 71kg. I have to work hard to keep it there and will only loose some 3-4 pounds for my Cat A race in mid August (which is a hilly 3lap event with 5.000ft of total climbing in 70km).

Now we come to FTP and there it's hard for me. Although power is still rising it's getting slower. I especially suffer with the shorter intervals. 20' is OK but 5' is tough as can be and the 1's are hell! How can 60 sec's last that long!!??

Keep up your good work and your posts. That's entertaining and motivating!

Cheers,
bigwillie013

Sillyoldtwit

Bad, bad news guys. A student of mine just got back from England. I told her to buy me a couple of Mars Bars. (can't buy them in Nagoya)

She brought back 1.6 kilograms (3 1/2 pounds worth) I've put them in the fridge and hopefully that's where they'll stay. Like most Japanese, my wife can't eat them and my daughter can only eat half at a time.

Has anyone any ideas - what do I do? Tyson

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kant314

Deep fry them in batter.
The Japanese will love them.
it's a Scottish delicacy.

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kopride

Vanity is the big factor for me as well. At 6' and 79.5 kg, I am pretty lean, but lots of upper body weight honed for years in wt room that is just baggage up the hills. Like your girlfriend, my wife doesn't like it when I get much thinner. But if you folks throw a bench press in this competition. watts + max bench/ body weight, then me, Felt, and JS will give you bird men a run for your money. Unless, I decide to do what Tyson did and give up then weights entirely, I don't see 5W/kg as being a realistic goal.

kopride

Keep them frozen. It takes a lot more effort to eat a frozen Mars bar. And at your age, it will probably break your teeth if you go after them full bore. It would be interesting to know the total calories in 3.5 pounds of mars bars. The you need to know how much time at what watts to wear them off

Pendejo

** Two questions. What do you teach? And why can't most Japanese eat candy bars?

Felt_Rider

I think I might be getting back on track following training this morning. Since I do not have a PM and go by the unreliable perception model I would guesstimate about a L3 effort. It was definately was not L4 on intention.

If I had to trace back to where I started to fall apart I think the downward spiral started as far back as when I did back to back charity centuries. I don't think it was so much doing the centuries, but the second one I tried to hang with a fast group that over extended me when I was already tired. Following that ride I continued to hammer on the spin bike with hard efforts.

Anyway, I think the thoughts may be relative to "It's killing me but...." I am stupid enough to keep pushing when I should have not done a recreation charity ride just for the fun of it. Looking back now it is the proverbial monkey wrench that I threw into my own works.

If I am back on track it is back to making more sane decisions on training and riding and not just jump into any ride that my friends may be doing on the weekend. I plan to plan better.

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PaulMD

The second question is due to the lactose in candy bars with a basis of milk? Non-white people have more often a 'lactase' deficiency and a problem with digesting food with lactose.

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jsirabella

5W/kg for would be ... drumroll please ... 410 watts...
Yeah that is gonna happen soon...

That is why when I talk to some folks and they tell me they are 5 watts/kg and like 2?? something watt ftp I roll my eyes as more in jealous than disbelief.

Now if we want to talk deadlift...good shot in 6 - 8 month ... currently do a 3 rep max of 315....so maybe a one rep max possible in that time...but would be difficult at the above body weight.

Currently shooting for 4 watts/kg as Dave kind of feels that is an obtainable goal most guys should be able to hit and I figure next year sometime at my current bodyweight and somewhere between 270-280 ftp.

-js

jsirabella

The funny thing for me is that I have all the software, hardware crap and advice and I still blow up. I get pissed at myself.

For the last few months I built up to a max 105 CTL and kept it in the 100 range most of the time. My TSS was not crazy like 900-100 per week but in the 700 range regularly and thought I had it all figured out. I started to add the high end intervals and that is when I screwed up.

I was not listening to my body or the software. Everytime I hit about a 102 CTL I could tell my body was starting to loose steam...did I listen to my body...no....did i look at the software and say ok ... you are getting really close to the 102...lets take it easy today....no.

Instead I would say let me do more weights instead...let me do CX...thats not road riding and I never know how to add that crap in my calculations...so there you go lost 4 days of riding and at about 80% today. Did 2 hours at 180 watts today and will see what my body feels like in the morning!

-js