It's killing me but..........

Originally Posted by Sillyoldtwit

You're going great guns Paul, I'll have a job to keep up with you. As for my FTP, the next FULL HOUR TEST (the real man's FTP test ) is planned for August 12 on my 66th B'day.

The dilemma of course is, do I go for 320W and be disappointed because it was too easy, or do I go for 330W and be unhappy because I couldn't do the hour?
Or better still, do I take up curling and say to hell with it.

Btw, I think my stomach has already shrunk because I don't feel the need to eat some bread before going to bed tonight. Tyson

Originally Posted by PaulMD

The dillema is easy when you can choose for 320 or 330... It's 330 off course

But seriously you can feel during your L4 training what you probably can do... With my 2x20min I can go above my FTP. But when I am not really fresh and do a 2x30 I know I can do a 60min test at that pace. Yesterday I did 2x20min@330watts. Next week I am going to try to do a 2x30min @ 330w. When that's possible I can try it at a 1x60min. I see a 60min FTP test as a 60min L4 training but with a lot of pain in the last 20 minutes...

Originally Posted by Felt_Rider

I have not done that well this year either. I wanted to be down from my weight last year, which was 74kg and instead it went up and it keeps going up. I am now 78kg at 5'6" and a light frame, but I am under 10%BF. My BF has been dropping, but since I am one of those crossfit kind of guys and not a cycling purist like you cycling beasts my body has been responding to the weights a bit more than I expected. I thought the mix between a lot of cycling training and weights would actually be catabolic, but my experimenting with nutrition keeps me more recovered. (Athough this past two weeks I have felt pretty fatigued with some tough cycling events. )

The way I keep gaining weight with a lean menu adding donuts would be a disaster.

Don't they make a prescription patch to help break the addiction of Mister Donut?

Originally Posted by Sillyoldtwit

Sorry FR, I missed your post. 78kg at 5'6" makes me feel much better and as for Mister Donuts, I think I've cracked that addiction. Roll on 74kg! (first target)

Originally Posted by kopride

"Anal" is a shorthand for an old freudian expression "anal retentive" and is typically used to describe an individual or group who is particularly attentive to details, almost to the point of obsession. See e.g. ""b : of, relating to, or characterized by personality traits (as parsimony, meticulousness, and ill humor) considered typical of fixation at the anal stage of development herefore," In common venacular, it is generally used to describe a meticulous person who obsesses over small details. JS was essentially saying that generally the Japanese are known for sweating the details or being particularly meticulous in preparation. In that regard, Toyota, Sony, and many other Japanese companies created a reputation for being meticulous and attentive to small details. Japanese art is very much a reflection of this attention to the tiniest detail. Therefore, a poorly planned race without a lead car would very much be inconsistent with this aspect of Japanese culture.

I think that you are taking the reference out of context. Certainly, there are individual Japanese that are just as disorganized and careless as what you would find in any other culture, but generally, Japanese culture prides itself on careful preparation and they would not consider a characterization as being "meticulous" as being insulting. JS was expressing surprise that a Japanese race would be marked by poor planning. Also, JS is from NYC where every person spends years and years in analysis with traditional freudian psychiatrists. See e.g. Woody Allen. New Yorkers pride themselves on being much more sophistocated than anyone else so they drop these psycho-babble expressions on unsuspecting folks, particulalry their lesser cousins from Philadelphia, who as Quakers are more prone to quiet reflection . In NYC, a characterization of a co-worker or friend as being anal would be complimentary. In all likelihood, by your comment, you have set JS back years in his sessions with his Psychiatrist (most likely an eastern european jew who charges $300 for a 50 minute session), and he will have to go back with his analyst and explore possible anti-japanese sentiment, most likely caused by inappropriate diapering at the hands of his filipino nanny when he was a child. This in turn, will cause his FTP to decrease as he fails to keep his concentration on his trainer while he obsesses over these unconscious repressed thoughts. If JS does not hit 300 this summer it will be your fault. New Yorkers have very fragile psyches and are particulalry sensitive to any allegation of insensitivity based upon race, gender, culture, or sexual preference. I hope you are happy

Originally Posted by jsirabella

The first time I get sick all year and so much happens...I did not even see these posts. I lost my second day of riding and bouncing off walls. I notice every time I hit about 102 CTL my body starts to crash, first time I got a cold... -js

Originally Posted by Sillyoldtwit

Well I weighed in at 74.3 this morning! A kilo (2.2lbs) down from yesterday.

I hear the chorus saying that's too fast, but I'm willing to temporarily sacrifice some power in order to get the weight down. The power can be worked on at a later date. Roll on 73 Kilos! Tyson

P.S. Paul I hereby retract my challenge. If you are doing regular L4 intervals at 330watts then you definitely have an insurmountable lead over me. Let's just see who can reach a 350Watt FTP first - if at all. One month before Lake Biwa in October I intend to be doing L5 workouts around 400watts which should help to drag up the FTP.

Originally Posted by Sillyoldtwit

It looks like we'll be racing each other to 330Watts. Last one to get there is a big girl's blouse.

Have just read page 1 again - who was that guy?

Originally Posted by Sillyoldtwit

Well I weighed in at 74.3 this morning! A kilo (2.2lbs) down from yesterday.
.

Originally Posted by Pendejo

It's the old yin/yang thing, which SOT should know quite well. Any extreme carries within it the seeds of its own destruction. So just when you are feeling superfit, and you finish a hard workout and actually think about doing it again, you are closer than ever to breaking down.

Originally Posted by Sillyoldtwit

Well I weighed in at 74.3 this morning! A kilo (2.2lbs) down from yesterday.

I hear the chorus saying that's too fast, but I'm willing to temporarily sacrifice some power in order to get the weight down. The power can be worked on at a later date. Roll on 73 Kilos! Tyson

P.S. Paul I hereby retract my challenge. If you are doing regular L4 intervals at 330watts then you definitely have an insurmountable lead over me. Let's just see who can reach a 350Watt FTP first - if at all. One month before Lake Biwa in October I intend to be doing L5 workouts around 400watts which should help to drag up the FTP.

Originally Posted by jsirabella

But it all came crashing down thursday night. While I still do not have a fever, I continue with the "runs" which makes me feel weak combined with a headache. I am going to try and just do a 150 today in the gym for an hour and see how it feels. If it does not feel right I will just stretch today. I can not stay in that bed any longer as my muscles are just getting worse being in that position all day.

I have learned my lesson. It was a combination of the overtraining and other people in my office having a cold. Because my body was in a weaker condition than them, I got hit much harder.

-js

Originally Posted by Felt_Rider

Just so you know you have company
On my blog I have mentioned struggling with fatigue and possibly a low grade illness. My instincts were telling me for the last two weeks to back off a little, but do I listen to myself? No!!