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29-07.-2003, 07:57 AM
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I have only one thing to add here.... DAMN U.S. standardized system! If only we'd stuck with the metric system as planned back in the '70s. But nooooooooooooooo. Now I have to do all these conversions to Km, Kg, grams, etc. Grrrrrrrrrr.
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06-08.-2003, 11:47 AM
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Having too much water can be fatal? I went on a 3 hour ride on sunday - extremely hot. I drank 3 liters of water and about a liter of accellerade during this time. I was literally gushing sweat in the 92 degree heat. I was obviously absorbing the water, because I didnt have to urinate, and the sweat was coming out very very fast. Scary fast, in fact. I stopped in the middle of a short hill to rest for a second (and get my heartrate down) and sweat literally poured from under my helmet. |
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06-08.-2003, 06:26 PM
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i2ambler, not sure if this is in refernce to something i wrote. however, too much water cause hyponatraemia (which can be fatal or need hospitalisation) in sucseptible people, and instead you should drink a carbohydrate - electrolyte solution (not plain water). i *think* but i'm not 100% certain that accelerade is carb - electrolyte drink. i wrote a bit more on the previous page about it. Ric
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06-08.-2003, 09:40 PM
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I thought that you could store about 1500 cals in your muscles? At 500 cals per hour that would give you 3 hours before a bonk. My experience is that if I eat breakfast before a ride I wouldn't have to eat for a 2 hour ride. I chose to however to ensure a good ride and 'cos I'm bleeding starving!!!
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14-08.-2003, 02:03 PM
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about time someone had the balls to say all that. i agree. i did the ATKINS diet and still control my carb intake even after loosing 30 pounds, and i race "A" grade and train just fine without loading up with high carb garb.
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14-08.-2003, 06:51 PM
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This is a good point, however: 1. Calorie expendature during cycling can be a lot higher than 500 cals per hour. 2. The amount of carbs stored in your body depends upon your size and previous activity/depletion. 3. Performance in rides over 1 hour can be enhanced by water and carb intake, even if the knock isn't experianced. 4. You could ride all day and not eat if the intensity was low enough! 5. Why is it us cyclists are always starving?  |
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14-08.-2003, 07:16 PM
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What did Ssuchi say? Why did that need balls? Ssushi didn't mention Atkins or even low carb diets! As far as I see it even you eat carbohydrate so why do you keep saying it is bad (apart from you reading the Atkins marketing material)? OK, so you control your carbs you don't exclude them; give it a try for a week and see how well you ride! Try posting a new thread called the 'no carb project' and give us daily updates. Steak or sausages (both a good source of fat and protein with no carbs) would make a good meal for the project. There will be no fruit, veg, starchy foods, sweet foods, sweet drinks, sports foods, etc. Do you actualy know the (1) 'extent' to which you limit your carbs or (2) even what type of carbs you are limiting? There are very clear biochemical reasons why humans don't function (particularly during exercise) with bodies depleted of carbohydrates. There are also health risks associated with low carbohydrate, HIGH FAT and high protein diets. 'Carbohydrate loading' is a technique that's used to boost muscle and liver glycogen... you don't do it every day, for training or even every race!!! It does increase muscle glycogen (shown through biopsy studies) and does increase time to exhastion at a range of intensities. I also control my carb intake only to around 50 - 60% of my calorie intake. No-one has ever recomended 'high carbohydrate diets' (say 80% of calories from carbs) in the long term. The original post by Ssushi, was actualy quite sensible, you could do two hours of training a day without ever eating on your bike or suffering the effects of glycogen depletion. This could be done by eating breakfast before you start, limiting the intensity(or duration) and ensuring that glycogen is replaced over the remainder of the day. Although this could be done is it the best method for gaining performance improvements? I supose that depends on your goals. |
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