Weight Loss help

HellonWheels

NOT having carbs almost killed me. I bonked once on my exercise bike from not taking in enough carbs, fell off the bike and hit my head on the bed footboard.

I think the Atkins movement is a cult, akin to Scientology. I've never seen people proselytize a form of eating the way they proselytize that.

There is nothing that beats a regular low-fat (NOT no-fat!) eating plan, moderate portions, fresh, healthy food, plenty of complex carbs. Its what all reputable medical professionals and health organizations recommend.

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Shabby

Lions? Cheetahs?

Women do have udders. They're known as breasts.

Your logic is childish.

Man, ten times smarter than a gorilla. Perhaps they need more sausages?

Why do animals eat herbivores? Becuase they can catch them and they don't have the teeth to fight back.

Harrow

Excellent point, if you stop eating everything you will (may) lose weight. I know a few people who will be delighted to hear that their weight problems have been solved.


Well if they have all the good vitamins, I think I'll eat them too. Now, where did I put that burger...?


Isn't milk for mammals, which includes...er.....humans?


Hey, you forgot fast cars, fast women and a fast internet connection!


Good in theory but my local butcher refuses to label his sirloin as blood type 'A' ,'B' and 'O', etc.

Thanks for the laugh. You are an absolute classic. Keep it coming.

Regards,
Harrow.

JAPANic

Lions and Cheetahs are puffed after 2 minutes on the run. No stamina at all. After eating they have to sleep for 10 hours to digest all the protein.

Your wife may have an udder or two but mine has breasts. Cows milk is for cows!

I'll put my horse against your lion in a race anyday.

Gorillas are dumb, I'll give you that much, but there are plenty of humans around who aren't as smart as a gorilla.
Do you know what is in a sausage? Unless you've made it yourself you have no idea what you are eating...

Not, my childish logic, any of this. It is all fact; and I don't think you can say that any of what I said is not true.

Now I know what a meat head is.... I hope eating sausages isn't some kind of phallic symbol?

I am not a herbivore BTW....

art_babe

i've been a herbivore for 13 years and i'm fine. True, my iron levels are *slightly* below normal but that may because i'm a woman.

i agree with JAPANic, cow's milk is for cows; milk is bad. Cow's are pumped full of horomones to produce the amount of milk they do, In return, you consume those hormones. Recent studies show that teenage girls are "maturing" earlier than ever before because of the hormones present in cow's milk and beef.

In regards to the Atkin's diet, sure you'll lose weight initially because of cut calories, but once you're off the diet, you'll gain it back. i've seen it happen all too often.

A healthy and balanced lifestyle with training/exercise always works.

Miller

That last post contains one of the most ridiculous lines I think I've ever heard: "Milk is for cows. Otherwise women would have been given udders." Obviously, this person is single. Woman have breasts! Same thing!

Also: like it or not, human beings are carnivors. Horses cannot eat steak -- they can't digest it. We can. Get used to it -- humans eat animal protein. That's why we live in organized communities and have language and laws and culture -- precisely because we're not horses.

JAPANic

And I thought it had something to do with greed!
Now I know the meaning of life!
Thanks. That beats my line by a mile!




You mean 'milk isn't for cows'?. I'm confused!


You should study the history of food..... (simpified here for you).

First were fruits & vegetables.... Over population growth problems caused a lack of naturally available food and hunting was invented (necesity).... Game was not always available so farming was invented..... more fruits, vegetables and then grain. Then animals were farmed. Dairy products came last....

marion

you forgot to add.........then over the years the farmers failed to maintain the land to mother natures specs.......

This is why we are needing to take micro nutrients. half the world suffers from grade 2 malnutrition, as for the history of food mmmm very interesting xx

2LAP

Actualy, you would have lost weight due to a reduced calorie intake. This may have been acheived by reducing carbohydrate intake.

The comment 'YOU DON'T NEED CARBS' is factualy incorrect, many people don't realise that they are eating carbs or use the generic 'carbs' to describe simple or complex carbs.

Carbs are essential for exercise and healthy life (within a healthy and balanced diet).

This tread has gone a bit off topic, think its about time it closed.

HellonWheels

I agree totally about carbs. Incidentally, a gram of carbs has LESS calories than a gram of fat...for those who have an interest in weight loss. Makes more sense to cut the fat, not the (complex) carbs.

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Renae

I personally tried doing Atkins, after telling people how bad it was for you, I finally gave in an tried it as the promise of quick weight loss intrigued me since I wasn't having any luck other ways. Yes, I did lose weight, yes I did keep it off for a little while (only gained a couple pounds of it back), but I had to stop as after a couple weeks I started to feel horrible (headaches, difficulty sleeping). Now, I have attempted to restart it a couple times, and I can hardly make it 3 days before I start to feel horrible again...it is just not worth it to me to feel that way.
Someone that I work with took up cycling and lost a lot of weight. We always saw her drinking her Pepsi and eating pretty much whatever she wanted, but didn't understand how she was still losing weight. She actually started using the Mayo Clinic Healthy Weight Loss Program: http://www.mayoclinic.com/planners/...E20F60BED3A9CC2
It is not the old 'Mayo Clinic Diet' where you eat cabbage or grapefruit all the time. All that it is is making you aware of what you are eating. It tells you how many servings of carbs, proteins, veggies, etc. that you can have per day, and if you want you can print of sheets for each day and write down what you ate and mark off how many servings of whatever you had that day. It is no miracle diet, your not going to lose 10 pounds in two weeks, but she stuck with it and succeeded, and now it is just a way of life for her. I tried it, and am planning on doing it again, as while I did it before I did well (until I went on vacation). You also kind of watch your calorie intake for the day, mine was set for 1200 calories, and I didn't have a problem with that. If you know you are going to go out to dinner, just eat healthier during the day so that you can eat whatever that night.
I know someone that has lost 100+ pounds on the Atkins diet. She is still doing the diet so that she may maintain her weight loss. But, it is a lifelong commitment for her to do that as once she stops the Atkins, she will most likely start to gain it back again. My mom is doing the 'South Beach Diet'. She is doing well on that. I have heard it compared to Atkins, but in all reality, she eats a whole lot healthier that I did when I did Atkins. She doesn't care about the carbs in a food, she cares about the sugars, and she looks at the nutrition information, and if the calories are too high, it really is not worth eating it because just because it doesn't have much for sugar, it still may be high in fat and calories.

2LAP

Good post Renae, as you say cut the calories and you will lose weight. Most diets work (because they reduce calorie intake) if you stick to them in the long term. Its just that some diets are healthier than others (these are not usualy the fad diets) and some are better for cycling performance (diets with carbohydrates)!

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HellonWheels

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Renae
I personally tried doing Atkins, after telling people how bad it was for you, I finally gave in an tried it as the promise of quick weight loss intrigued me since I wasn't having any luck other ways. Yes, I did lose weight, yes I did keep it off for a little while (only gained a couple pounds of it back), but I had to stop as after a couple weeks I started to feel horrible (headaches, difficulty sleeping). Now, I have attempted to restart it a couple times, and I can hardly make it 3 days before I start to feel horrible again...it is just not worth it to me to feel that way.
Someone that I work with took up cycling and lost a lot of weight. We always saw her drinking her Pepsi and eating pretty much whatever she wanted, but didn't understand how she was still losing weight. She actually started using the Mayo Clinic Healthy Weight Loss Program: [url]


Personally, I don't understand why so many ppl have such trouble losing weight and keeping it off. When I was younger (teens, early twenties) I was around 105-115 lbs. After I got married I put on a LOT of weight...my all time high was 305 lbs. Took me almost a quarter of a century to gain that excess weight, and only 1 1/2 yrs to lose it. And (get this), I wasnt even trying to lose weight (what I mean is, weight loss was not my goal). I changed my eating habits to low fat, high complex carbm smaller portions, more frequent but smaller meals, drink nothing but water, whole foods for the most part, junk food only occasionally, etc I went from 305 to 140 in 1 1/2 years and its stayed off since 2002. I made PERMANENT changes to my LIFESTYLE, I did not "go on a diet". I did this because I wanted to get back the energy I had when I was younger, but also to treat my IBS (irritable bowel syndrome), a condition made much worse by eating too much food in one sitting, too high fat foods, caffeine, alcohol and solid choc.

Losing the 165 lbs was the easiest thing I ever did...prob because weight loss was not my GOAL...being healthy was. I also returned to the active lifestyle I had when I was younger....pedaling my recumbent stationary bike 6x/week (originally 7x/wk but my dr made me cut it back to 6). I have a personal trainer now, so I am doing weights too now. Recently I got back into regular cycling and of course thats why I'm here on this forum!

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booyah

This is probably the best comment I've read in this whole thread.

I'm trying to get rid of a bit of weight these days. I'd put on to about 240 over the last four years. Healthy weight for me when I'm fit is around 195-200. I went to Weight Watchers with my wife for a while, and it made me realize I wanted something more than just losing weight. Losing weight wasn't my main goal - getting fit and feeling good was! Weight Watchers is a great system to get a kick-start with, and focuses your mind and body on what is good/bad to eat. Trouble was, they want me to be 185 (ain't gonna happen in this lifetime with my build), and don't take fitness and muscle mass into account too well.

Removing weight targets from my 'lifestyle change' has been the best thing I've ever done. The last four weeks, I've ridden about 400 miles, plus spend about 4 hours in the MTB saddle every Sunday out on a single track somewhere and do a weights program three times a week. I feel great, I'm getting fitter, and the 'weight' is disappearing from the right places - where the fat is! ...and appearing in the right places - where the muscle needs to be.

My current goal is completing my first metric century before Christmas.