Weight Loss help

Blimp

And anyone who doesn't believe that, try the following diet;

1. Don't eat any junkfood
2. Don't add any fat to your food
3. Eat as many vegetables and fruit as you like
4. Ride slowly at least 150 kms per week.

If you don't lose body fat doing that, you are a metabolic freak. Beats poisoning yourself with the Atkins diet.

2LAP

The most simple advice is always the best. You could also try calorie counting; most weight loss companies use this technique (e.g. weight watchers). It allows you to quantify your intake and expendature to make sure that you eat less than you use.

Rather than reading stuff like the Atkins books, why not go to dietetics or nutrition textbooks. You will find that they are all very thick, but the take home message is always the same...

1. Eat a balanced diet.
2. Balance energy intake with expendature.
3. Cut down on processed food.

2LAP

Where is the 'new' pyramid, I have checked a few sources but couldn't find one? The pyramid always told you to avoid some carbohydrates (refined sugars) and to use lots of complex carbohydrates (breads, rice, potatoes, etc.).

2WheelsGood

1. Define "junkfood."
2. You will literally die without fat in your food.
3. So, calories from fruits and vegetables simply don't count? Hmmm.
4. Why ride slow?

Otherwise it sounds perfect. Get some business cards, charge 50 bucks for this, and you can call yourself a "nutritionist."

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kiwiboy

I work in the hospital I shall talk with some people and find a good site. This was information given to us at the hospital, also it was splashed all through our newspapers.

Blimb carbohydrates are ok the problem with most however is they are actually full of sugar, the classic is the 97% fat free stuff, loaded with sugar, sugar converts to ........FAT amazing.

When people eat lots of fruit and veg what are they high in Carbohydrate so a normal meal is loaded with so much carb.

The point of increasing your protein actually lifts it to a level that is required for endurance atheletes.
So you can go from 80-90% carbs which most people eat unaware to a more balanced diet of protein and fats.
The point white flour is killing you along with the high sugar diet.

Hay I was sold on the carb thing, I am not advocating the atikins diet there is a balance in the middle.

Hope you find it I feel great.

Blimp

1. 'Junkfood' includes stuff high in saturated fat (hamburgers, chips, donuts, fried takeaway rubbish.

2. Of course you will, but there is more than enough fat in a balanced diet already. Frying food in the stuff is not a good idea.

3. Nobody could get fat on a diet of fruit and vegetables, unless you were eating about 100 avocados per day. Mind you, you would look worse on a diet of McDonalds or whatever strange stuff they sell in California (deep fried tofu perhaps)

4. Plenty of evidence elsewhere on the forum (and elsewhere) to show that slow, aerobic exercise will help get rid of body fat.

Try this simple technique: Go to a fast food shop, and look at the people buying the product. Then go to a fresh fruit/vegetable market and do the same. QED.

Harrow

My favourite is deep fried Mars bar. Yummy !!!

P.S. Why is white flour killing me?

Blimp

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Harrow
My favourite is deep fried Mars bar. Yummy !!!

Remember the 1980's? Deep fried camembert with cranberry sauce

Shabby

Sugar is a form of carbohydrate. A simple scientific fact. Carbohydrates are not "full of sugar", sugar is a carbohydrate. Sugar (or any other carbohydrate) is not usually converted to fat, it's just that the body uses glycogen before it uses fat as a fuel. (Simple aerobic or anaerobic combustion of carbohydrates - year 8 biology coversd this). Hence, if you eat too much food, there is ample carbohydrate available for day to day activites so your body stores the fat.

Fruit is also loaded with water and nutrients. I've never seen a fat (long term) vegetarian.

29 years of white flour and still alive! I must be lucky.

Balance and moderation are the key, not pseudo-scientific mumbojumbo. It's a simple energy balance, just most people don't care or understand where they are putting energy into their body.

I have to agree with the look at what people are eating theory - I have lunch with the same people every day, and the fat ones are the ones who have a full meal with chips and gravy plus a dessert for lunch, while I'm there eating my pasta (despite usually having ridden 50km before work) and diet coke.

wamara

2LAP, here's a link to a great article on the "new" food pyramid:

New Food Pyramid

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2LAP

Are most people in the us eating 80-90% of carbs in their diet, that realy is a low fat low carbohydrate diet!

Normaly, its recomend 50-60% carbohydrate leaving plenty of room for protein and fat. In the UK I have done dietary analysis on a number of athletes and children, all have managed to come close to this. Although the foods eaten to get to the target compositions have left a little to be desired!

2LAP

An interesting article and pyramid, which is far from accepted or proven yet. I think its useful as it helps to divide up 'good and bad' sources or fat and carbohydrate more clearly. The two pyramids are not too different; there is just more diferentiation in the new pyramid. The new pyramid also supports the balanced diet, as carbs, protein and fat remain are all included. I think that when eating this kind of diet you would still consumb close to <30% fat, ~15% protein and the rest from carbohydrate; similar to the old recomendations. What is different are the sources of these macronutrients (i.e. avoid refined sugar, butter, red meat, etc.).

The balanced diet is the way to go, food choices made within the diet help to make it a better or worse diet. Faddy diets (be it high carb, fat or protein) are often unfounded and carry their own health risks.

kiwiboy

Shabby,
Have a look on food products the amount of carbohydrates then look at the % that comes from sugar it will scare you.
The new food pyramid has placed this as a problem as well.
Not all Carbohydrates are equal, white flour no, no etc.

Sugar is a poor energy source a good book to read is called white death interesting stuff.

kiwiboy

Another good read is nutrition related diseases the british Journal of medicine has interesting stuff on it.
That will scare you as well.
No dought that many diseases are related to the current diets of most people cancer is on the increase hmmmm wonder why maybe diet?