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18-01.-2006, 04:47 AM

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Don Shipp

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

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Originally Posted by Carrera

Mountain Pro, today I removed the old ammeter and also removed the horn switch on the boat. The only worry is that the old, knackered ammeter is connected to three very thick brown wires, whereas the new ammeter has only two thin, red and black wires.

I'll get advice about this. Maybe I will need to buy some sort of socket to connect the new ammeter wires to the thicker brown wires. I'll find out before I do anything.
The main thing is I carefully marked which wires go there and marked the wires on the boat so I know where they ought to fit.
Looking at the wiring I can see the problem. I figure I'm going to save myself a heck of a lot of money doing this myself (so long as I get advice from my dad who's a retired engineer). The connections as they stand are damp, loose and dirty. New spades sockets are required.
I figure the ignition switch needs changing too and maybe I can even make a new dashboard pannel or, at least, paint the old one.
This boat is going to need a lot of work but I plan to give it my best shot.

You need to buy a new boat.

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18-01.-2006, 05:07 AM

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Carrera

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

A new boat would mean heap big money. This boat was practically given me. At least I know the diesel engine is O.K.
But, sure, this is going to be a lot of work that could go on for months and I did think seriously about throwing in the towel.
However, I have to have faith in myself, I guess. I figure I can do the wiring myself by just taking my time and getting advice where I can. I could be paying a lot of money to an electrician who would only be doing what I'm doing now - buying new spades, sockets, instruments and wires where needed.
You guys, if you're religious, should pray for Carrera.

The last thing we want is me being blown up or electrocuted.

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You need to buy a new boat.

18-01.-2006, 08:19 AM

#18

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

Carrera, an ameter is a device for measuring current. Usually it only has a + & - sign and will be connected directly between your battery and the ships electrical system. Remember, current is measured 'through' a device so it must be in series with the battery. Your engine will also supply the ship with electrical power when it is running. This is probably the third wire that you have. It will probably be connected with the + wire from your battery but seperated by a power diode (this is of huge importance). The negative of which will be connected to the lowest potential...check the electrical manual for correct installation. You dont want to connect the engine directly to the battery or vice versa depending on the installation. This is a fire hazzard.

Your ship will have a common ground plane indicated by the - sign but beware because ground planes may not necessarily be earthed and may carry a high current.

You best consult a manual or get an engineer to inspect the wiring.

If you buy a new ameter then the wiring diagram may be included..

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18-01.-2006, 08:40 AM

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

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Originally Posted by MountainPro

This sounds like a scene from the movie "Jagernaut" or something silmilar where the guy on the phone is trying to instruct the guy on the other end on how to disarm a bomb.... Cut the blue wire John.... not the Red one...... Wait, wait! Let me think about this !

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18-01.-2006, 09:00 AM

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

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"Brown wire is earth or should that be the blue wire or maybe it's the ......."

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18-01.-2006, 09:50 AM	#21
Traffic Jammer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto, CANADA Posts: 131	Re: Rock Salt On Roads There is something to be said about a protective layer of grease and filth to keep the salt at bay. BEWARE the car rinse gun at the coin car wash can take decals off. lol but man o man is my bike clean.... 3 minutes __________________ Messengers....the other Pros Professional Rider, Closed course, DO NOT attempt this yourself.

18-01.-2006, 10:11 AM

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

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Originally Posted by limerickman

"Brown wire is earth or should that be the blue wire or maybe it's the ......."

(Laughing)

All in a days work.... MountainPro wins an Oscar, Carrera's boat doesn't blow-up and Carrera rides off in the sunset on a bike with a new rear wheel and a FD that doesn't rub the chain any longer. - Life is good.

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18-01.-2006, 10:14 AM	#23
Traffic Jammer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto, CANADA Posts: 131	Re: Rock Salt On Roads I love the smashing the shit out of the frnt D fix. Responds well to medium to heavy ball peen hammer. lol __________________ Messengers....the other Pros Professional Rider, Closed course, DO NOT attempt this yourself.

18-01.-2006, 10:19 AM

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

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Originally Posted by Carrera

...The last thing we want is me being blown up or electrocuted.

It may be last, but it did make it to the list?

18-01.-2006, 10:21 AM

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

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Originally Posted by Don Shipp

There are three things that you shouldn't be doing:-
1) Running big ring to big sprocket.
2) Running small ring to small sprocket.
4) Using "smilies" in your posts unless you are 14 yrs old.

...and going straight from (2) to (4) without revealing (3).

18-01.-2006, 10:22 AM

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

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It may be last, but it did make it to the list?

Very good

18-01.-2006, 10:30 AM

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

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Originally Posted by Carrera

...I could be paying a lot of money to an electrician who would only be doing what I'm doing now - buying new spades, sockets, instruments and wires where needed...

A word to the wise, Carrera - Where possible, in rewiring boats / motorbikes / space shuttles etc, minimise removable connections. Spades and crimps are potential sources of poor connectivity further down the track. Where possible, full soldered connections are less prone to the ravages of canal-surfing over the years to come. Only use spades etc where connecting to electrical items which require it. Of course, if you blow yourself up, this will be something of a moot point.
Remember, boat electrics is not rocket science. This can be demonstrated by the lack of canal boats on the Moon.

18-01.-2006, 12:30 PM

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

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Originally Posted by stevebaby

I'm guessing that pump grease would be pretty water-resistant?
Marine grease or lubrimatic would probably work OK too,but I don't know about the friction loss.Might make a difference on a racing bike(viscosity)?

You're right about the pump grease, we only used it on our hack bikes to do 80-100 miles on a Sunday, a quick swill, and something to eat. Get up and go to work on it the next day.

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18-01.-2006, 05:50 PM

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

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Originally Posted by Don Shipp

There are three things that you shouldn't be doing:-
1) Running big ring to big sprocket.
2) Running small ring to small sprocket.
4) Using "smilies" in your posts unless you are 14 yrs old.

...and the third one would be...?

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18-01.-2006, 05:59 PM

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Re: Rock Salt On Roads

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Originally Posted by Carrera

The last thing we want is me being blown up or electrocuted.

If the engine is a goer and the hull and superstructure are sound then it's a viable project.Many owners take years to restore their boats.I'm still working on mine after 5 years.When I finish I'll get another and start again (presuming I live that long).
I read about someone who restored a boat over many years.His kids grew up and moved out,he retired from work,his wife died but he kept going until the boat was finally finished.It took 35 years.
Then he shot himself.The boat was his only reason to live.

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