Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?

Macey

K50,

Are you sure the 40 km TT was really 40 km? Was it a closed loop? (no downhill or tailwind all the way)

That average speed is fast enough to win the last _world_ time trial championship. Or the one before that. Or the one before that (even including Millar, with drugs). By a goodish margin too. Check the numbers - I would be more inclined to believe a time of 57 minutes if he is cat 3 and it is a local TT race. (or there's been a helluva wind shift part way through his run)

Dan

bigbevans

I think FT is not something that is easy to measure and there are a lot of vague measurements and this make comparison difficult. There seem to be several ways that people measure it making this a bit of a lottery not a comparision.

RapDaddyo

Actually, FTP is precisely defined (maximum sustainable constant power for 60mins). It's just that people "estimate" their FTP using various methods rather than doing a 60 min max power test ride.

otb4evr

I think you would have huge discrepancies here, also, due to motivation...

Besides, just because someone has a higher FTP than you doesn't mean that they are faster than you...

I think this is something that you witnessed personally, right RDO?

RapDaddyo

Absolutely. But, I think a lot of people who are using their 20min interval power as their FTP are placing a huge bet on motivation and I think they are often disappointed.

Absolutely! Hell, I witness it every day. We have this 120lb 20-y.o. kid in my club (Chuck) and I know that every time we do a long climb that I need 75-100W more power to stay with him. But, it's fun trying anyway.

otb4evr

I agree with you, but they are only hurting themselves...

This isn't a "my dad can beat up your dad" contest...

The way that I took this post was a chance to see what other people could do FTP-wise.

Honestly, none of it really matters when the rubber meets the road, though.

For example, look at the times that are posted. There are some blazing times with what could be looked at as moderate wattage numbers.

One of the things this proves is that there is more to winning bike races than how much wattage you can put out...

I just consider training with wattage as a way to quantify training and analyze racing.

When it all comes down to it, anyone can put in any number they want in this chart and it doesn't matter to me. The only numbers that matter to me are mine...

Jim

bspurgeon

ID FT Wt. W/Kg 10m(16km) 25m(40km)

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
BullGod 365 70 5.21
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
joemw 340 69 4.92
musher 318 65 4.89
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
rouleur 315 72 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
postal_bag 325 76 4.28
pledac 295 69 4.27
RobM 312 73 4.27
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
sugaken 240 66 3.64
amartinez 242 67 3.61
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76
the holster 180 67 2.69

K50

I have no idea what the circumstances are on the race. I want to look into it though, because I'm really curious... But it was indeed a "40km" TT and his time was 47 minutes...not sure how close to 40km it was and where the race was held, but yeah when I saw that, I nearly crapped myself. That's a blazing fast time!!! And maybe there was a wicked wind there too.

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Kev

Markster

ID FT Wt. W/Kg 10m(16km) 25m(40km)

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
BullGod 365 70 5.21
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
joemw 340 69 4.92
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
rouleur 315 72 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
postal_bag 325 76 4.28
pledac 295 69 4.27
RobM 312 73 4.27
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
sugaken 240 66 3.64
amartinez 242 67 3.61
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76
the holster 180 67 2.69

joemw

ID FT Wt. W/Kg 10m(16km) 25m(40km)

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
BullGod 365 70 5.21
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
rouleur 315 72 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
postal_bag 325 76 4.28
pledac 295 69 4.27
RobM 312 73 4.27
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
sugaken 240 66 3.64
amartinez 242 67 3.61
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76

cadence230

ID FT Wt. W/Kg 10m(16km) 25m(40km)

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
BullGod 365 70 5.21
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
rouleur 315 72 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
postal_bag 325 76 4.28
pledac 295 69 4.27
RobM 312 73 4.27
cadence230 280 4.24
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
sugaken 240 66 3.64
amartinez 242 67 3.61
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76

joule

Best effort for 40k TT 2006:
- Joule, 261 watts (avg), 60 kg, 4.35 w/kg, 40km (25.85 mi)

POGATA

He should`ve won ProTour races this year, w/kg=6,854, if it`s true, he`s number ONE!

POGATA

Hunter Allens defintion