civil unrest in australia...what gives?

biker jk

The problem is Islam and its backwardness. Muslims do not intergrate. Never have and never will. Australia make a huge mistake in allowing them to immigrate. The Lebanese muslims in Australia are the problem. They are separatists and despise Australian culture. They fired gunshots at a school where Christmas carols were being sung, they burned down a Church hall trying to burn the church itself. This is religious extremism at its worst. Back to the middle east I say.

Billsworld

Sorry for not understanding all the details, but this violence sounds more like young punks....?? That type of behavior might not be exclusive to any one race of punks. I think it might be less about islam and more about gang violence. On the flip side of that immigration needs to be tightly controlled if the culture in the country is to be preserved. We have certain towns here in the US where the hispanic community is demanding that the public schools teach thier kids in Spanish. There has also been a movement in California to teach young black kids in ebonics. Teachers need to learn to teach in ghetto slang.

limerickman

This is going way off topic : but I feel compelled to respond.

For whatever reason - the Jewish people have been on the receiving end from
a whole range of nationalities and ethnic groups, throughout history.

History shows us this : Egypt, the Romans, Poland 17th century, the Cruscades, the Nazi's, to name but a few.

CR seems to take umbrage at my use of the terms antagonise.
Maybe I used the incorrect phrase, when I wrote antagonise but how else can one explain why one race of people have managed to incur the wrath of so many diffuse and varied entities through ancient and modern history ?

No one has alleged that there was any Jewish involvement in 9/11, Madrid or 7/7 : so carrera for you to say that the Jews weren't involved in these matters is irrelevant.

As regards the causes of 9/11, Madrid etc, I think these issues are not the result of clashes of civilisations or Muslim V Secular.

Despite your best attempts to suggest that they are.

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

limerickman

Mit,

I hear what you're saying and I accept what you're saying here.

Can I get some calrification from you.
I understand that radio jock Alan Jones has been stoking up the fires of down there over this issue.
Is this correct ?

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

Colorado Ryder

Perhaps they antagonize others when they are blamed for crucifying Christ? Or because they tend to stay together? Maybe the perception that they are good business people? Maybe they are just good scapegoats that have become stereotyped through history. Maybe because they are God's chosen people that others feel the need to persecute them. The Jews have always been used to blame others problems on.

limerickman

I can't vouch for why so many disperate entities felt the need to blame the Jews.
I can only say that the Jews were on the receiving end throughout time.

Which begs the question as to why?

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

mitosis

He sure has. Now that man is far right wing.

I don't listen to him on the radio but the reports are that he was encouraging the "locals" to use violence on his talk back radio show and cutting off views of moslems who rang up to distance themselves from the lawless mobs who have been harassing people.

There has even been talk of arresting him under new sedition laws.

scotty72

What a load of crap!

Like you said, you didn't listen - instead you choose to repeat sensational media reports which are printed / broadcast for a political purpose.

I was listening, all he did was report the content of the text messages that were circulating.

Several times he encouraged people not to act on the

If he didn't, he'd be accused of censorship etc.

It is amazing how people choose to be ignorant of the facts, then shoot their mouths off.

Scotty

Carrera

"the bleeding hearts cry racism and unfortunately that triggers the politicians to act to not act."

I always figured the average Australian has more backbone than the Brits (although people in Scotland and Wales tend to be less wishy-washy than the English).
English society is filled with these politically-correct do-gooders you always find in a crowd watching the King parade naked in his invisible suit. The intellectual bleeding hearts over here will be more than willing to point out what an authentic suit that is.
Then you get the fools such as me who openly suggest the King is genuinely in the all-together.
That's how it is over here and we're colectively worse off than you Aussies. The tales I could relate of large groups of immigrants claiming welfare under multiple names, claiming for children who remain in their native lands, setting up benefit fiddles as a business and getting free health care ahead of folks who worked all their lives.
I know a lot about this as I had a Ukranian friend who knocked about in refugee circles and he knew what was going on only too well. I heard of fraud being reported and the authorities don't act due to fears of being accused of racism.
I heard of ex WW2 veterans selling their medals to keep warm while the welfare system is being fleeced by fraudsters.
There are now hundreds of French immigrants who took part in the last riots standing in line on the French border to get to the U.K. where they know they'll get instant cash, free-housing and a sympathetic ear from some do-gooder in an office (telling them what a shame it is France drove them to the point they had to set torch cars in the streets).
I don't mind educated, decent immigrants from any country but these days they let anyone in and if you object you're apparently a racist neo Nazi.

Carrera

Lim, there's a very simple answer to your question and if you think it through, you'll probably grasp this simple point.
The Jewish race is the only race to have a saviour of all humanity linked to Jewish ethnicity. Jesus was Jewish, Mary was Jewish, the apostles were Jewish.
This is why Jews have been persecuted to some extent.
But please don't forget so have the Christians who were thrown to wild dogs in Roman arenas or forced to offer sacrifice to the emperor.
But, at any rate, think about it. If the assumed saviour of the world had been Japanese, you'd have had ant-Japanese sentiment and jealousy by other religious people. The Jews are a non-gentile nation, linked to the one word religion that gave birth to most other religions.
You dislike Jews because of your Catholic beliefs and because you want Jews to accept catholic ideas concerning the messiah. Moslems also want Jews to hand them Jerusalem. It's all about religion and Jewish people are sometimes disliked due to their religion.

Carrera

I found this article that is probably already known to most people. The Catholic Church has always had religious issues with Jews and has been held responsible by many for fanning the flames of the hollocaust.
Just as is the case with moslems, it's all linked to religion:

"The 27,000-word article - which hit newsstands in the United States this week - accuses the Roman Catholic Church of providing the intellectual stimulus for Nazism and the Holocaust.
It is among the most savage attacks yet made on the record of alleged Catholic anti-Semitism.
But the author of this huge article is no stranger to controversy.
Some of the allegations have been made before, notably that the Pope during the war, Pius XII, didn't do enough to protect the Jews, even though he must have known what was happening to them. His argument, in a nutshell, is that traditional Church teaching - blaming Jews for the death of Christ - sowed the seeds of the genocidal anti-Semitism of the 20th Century."

davidmc

This makes perfect sense. It goes along the lines of"Pick on the big-kid on the block", if you want to make a name for yourself. I suspect that there is some subconscious envy involved there as the rest of the worlds religions consist of "johnny-come-lately's" based upon judaism. Much like the American bashing that appears to be en vogue these days. Bashing the administration is fine by me but, the whole country; thats another matter.

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US comedian and actor (1937 - )

davidmc

That would reinforce King Henry VIII's decision to seperate.

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

davidmc

That would further justify King Henry VIII's decision to seperate aside form the fact that he had buisiness to take care of that the RC church was impeding.

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )