civil unrest in australia...what gives?

Carrera

Lim has expressed this view before. I sometimes wonder whether Lim is somehow isolated from the media and news as a whole.
Where are all these Jewish people who are antagonising people?
I wonder how Lim feels about the Catholic Churches that have been torched by Middle Eastern gangs in Australia. No Jews were involved. Then you have the Madrid train bombing. That was carried out by extremist moslems. Again no Jews involved. The 9/11 terrorists were all of Middle Eastern origin but not Jewish and the same goes for the London bombers.
The riots in France were carried out by extremist moslem gangs of African origin. No Jews were involved.
So, what is the answer? Firstly, the only reason there is resentment against Jews is due to religion since the two main world religions originate from Judaism. Secondly, all the ethnic tensions in Europe and now Asia are being caused by extreme Islam.
In some ways, it's amusing to see all these Europeans voice anti-semitic sentiment while the Jews quietly return to their homeland and leave countries such as France to their fate of blazing cars and ethnic riots.

Carrera

By the way, your login is almost the same as "Mockva" - Russian for Moscow.

fatboy61

Lim I'm a bit young to remember the rods and mockers, but I'm pretty sure they didn't have the imams at the Lakemba Mosque firing them up with anti-west rhetoric every weekend.
Trust me on this one, it has gone far beyond that.

davidmc

One must look at the reasons why they migrate to europe. They don't go because they get an invitation in the mail/post. They go because the regimes. monarchies & theocracies they leave are repressive & totalitarian. They don't go because they think the europeans will be waiting for them w/ open arms. I still believe that they should leave thier ideological baggage behind and not attempt to foist it on thier host country. England could tighten up its, from what I hear from some european poster's here, "lavish" public assistance to aliens as my country, does to some degree also have/encourage. It might be better for them to remain in thier country and overthrow thier repressive totalitarian, theocratic, monarchies, instead of emigrating to europe, america, and australia and expecting to foist thier beliefs, traditions, and more's on an foriegn populace (us)

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Carrera

The funny thing is, I don't really blame the immigrants entirely. I'm not, in actual actual fact, the "heartless, intolerant swine" a lot of people imagine.
If I were running the show, immigrants from Arab countries would still be allowed to come and work here. I don't resent anyone over issues of race. I like black people. I admire Amir Khan the boxer who's as British as anyone.
Basically, the governments are to blame. Many of these people arrive looking for a better life and the message they get is, "Oh, well, er, maybe you guys had it right all the time. Maybe we should ban Santa Clause e.t.c."
So, then immigrants get very confused over what they're supposed to be doing.
If they fully understood the basic obligation to share views of tolerance and free-speech and accept other religious views, there wouldn't be a problem. I also accept the system works better in the U.S. where people are encouraged to just get on with things and adopt an inclusive American identity.

Billsworld

MY wife claims she has never head any anti Westen speach( in the sense that most of us are refering to )from any friend or in the mosque. The anti western language that she has heard over the years is in reference to the moral values of the West. Children out of wedlock, open views to sex etc.. The enviroment that she grew up in doesnt let daughters date, and still aranges marriages. This would lead me to believe that its a small minority of moslems causing the problem. She also believes that Moslems should not be moving to the west and holding to traditional Moslem lifestyles....burkas etc..... Her views not mine DB. " I " find it odd that its the lefties that come to the defense of the Moslems, who shun liberal ideals . The same liberals despise the Christian right for holding similar views.. Just a thought.

cheapie

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gee. they are jackasses aren't they? a group that managed to antagonize americans back in the day were africans. if they hadn't done that, maybe we wouldn't have enslaved, shipped, and sold them. apparently they didn't learn anything from the jews and egytians.




wth is a murkin?

fatboy61

My daughter went to a high school that was proud of its fairness, equity etc etc. They had a no-harrassment policy, an anti-discrimination policy etc etc. There was an area set aside for Moslem kids if they wanted to pray (as there should be). In her first year there she made the mistake of mentioning in class that she was a practising christian. This resulted her being made fun of, harrassed, etc etc, with her teacher (yes a lefty) being one of the chief offenders. (BTW I am not a born-again and consider myself to be left-leaning)
Religious and cultural tolerance should be for everyone, not just those whose background is exotic and quaint enough to endear themselves to the trendies.

darkboong

For the record that's pretty much what I've seen, heard and my views pretty much chime with your wife's.



That's because you aren't thinking straight. Liberals like people to have the right and the choice to be uptight fucktards if they so wish. For the record I am an anarchist, not a "leftie". I know for a fact that just about every faith and government that I have come across *hates* my ideals.

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Carrera

BELOTURIST IZ MOSCBI. BOT ETO YA!

Carrera

I know some moslems who seem O.K. to me. There is one guy from Iraq and he took up cycling. I think he lived in the Kurdish area. Seems to me like a nice guy and he works hard too. Such people I would never suggest deporting and they don't bother me in any way.
What bothers me is the people who preach hate and division or they try to change the society they migrate to (encouraged by ultra-liberal extremists in this country).
I was once a foreigner myself and speak from experience. There were things abroad I didn't like but it seemed to me I should be the one to adapt not vice versa.
Mostlly I think the liberal elite are to blame.
It can be uncomfortable for immigrants too when they see all these headlines in the papers where extremists bring their culture into disrepute. I understand this quite well. There are decent English folks living in Spain who feel embarrassed by the drunken thugs who smash up bars, shouting in the streets e.t.c.
Germans are also let down by a certain minority of drunkards, singing "Yellow Submarine" in German on the ferry e.t.c. prior to some football match.
I've seen it all. It's only not funny if you happen to be Spanish or a responsible ex-pat.

Billsworld

Did you like the way i threw my wife under the bus to make a point.

mitosis

I have to agree. Many years ago I used to be one of the many "westies" who caught the train to Cronulla, surfed all day then caught the train home. There was never any trouble except for the localism in the surf.

The current wave of westies includes large numbers of people of arab descent who harass locals, using vile language to the "Australian" women while supervising fully covered Moslem women as they swim. They are looking for fights and regularly start them. They have no respect for authority.

Unfortunately authorities has allowed this to happen. Political correctness means that every time these groups are targetted to control them the bleeding hearts cry racism and unfortunately that triggers the politicians to act to not act (if you can understand what i mean).

There are many people of middle eastern descent who over the last 100 years have integrated into Australian society but due to the larger numbers in the last 20 years they form insular groups who behave as the like.

I'm not condoning the violence but the blame lies with governments that have not acted because of the fear of being blamed as racist.