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Old 03-12.-2005, 04:28 AM   #16
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They replaced the dead geezer with another almost identical one, with an almost identical name.
I assume Wikipedia is up to date on this blokes state of health.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/Khamenei.jpg Ayatollah Ali Khamenei


Seyyed Ali Hosseini Khamenei (Persian: آیت‌الله سید علی حسینی خامنه‌ای; born July 15, 1939) is the Supreme Leader of Iran.

Is he a 'fiday'?
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Old 03-12.-2005, 04:33 AM   #17
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Seems like the best way to solve a potential catastrophe would be for Bush to outline a date for full Iraqi sovereignty and pull his forces out of the Gulf, thus easing the fears of the Iranians that they will be targeted. Europe could then persuade Iran to ditch its nuclear ambitions.
As things stand, the presence of thousands of U.S. troops and heavy armour on the border of Iran (coupled with the reality of a Christian, right-wing Bush, probably scares Iran and radicalises its people).
So, I don't know whether Iran is scared of being invaded or just asking for trouble by rocking the boat in the Middle East.

The Americans help Israel in nuclear matters, so what's wrong with Russia helping Iran. Sounds fair enough to me.
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as the Israelis don´t have bombers with the range to bomb Iran and don´t , themselves , have tanker support of their own it will only happen with outside help but this is not Iraq and these facilities are already operating and why can´T Iran have nuclear power ? all the treaties say they can , it´s only the US and Isreal that´s getting difficult - the US reason being that Iran has oil why does it need nuclear power .
mind you statements like these do explain why so many people consider Isreal to be the biggest threat to world peace .

Yeh, and Israel has a nuclear plant at Dimona, and it wasn't designed to produce electricity, and still doesn't.
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Bit of a tight stretch with an adequate payload. Maybe the US will loan them some B1-Bs.



Of course the best way to do it is to assemble the parts at various places inside a country and arm them shortly before detonation.
They can be shielded in lead to thwart detection. No planes and no rockets needed and immediate delivery of the payload.
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Yeh, and Israel has a nuclear plant at Dimona, and it wasn't designed to produce electricity, and still doesn't.


Oh ye of little faith... Next you will be telling me that Sellafield's primary function is making shitloads of bomb grade nuclear isotopes.
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Of course the best way to do it is to assemble the parts at various places inside a country and arm them shortly before detonation.
They can be shielded in lead to thwart detection. No planes and no rockets needed and immediate delivery of the payload.


Bummer, looks like the French built Dimona in the wrong place.
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Is he a 'fiday'?
No, on this occasion they admitted that their bloke was dead, and replaced him with a whole new different person. Who happened to be more of the same, even down to the name, barring a couple of vowel sounds. (And possibly a different number of fingers, if you want to examine that conspiracy theory.)
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Oh ye of little faith... Next you will be telling me that Sellafield's primary function is making shitloads of bomb grade nuclear isotopes.

A lot of people on here wouldn't know about Dimona.
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A lot of people on here wouldn't know about Dimona.


More of a case of refusing to admit to it's existance like every good Israeli should, can you blame them after the working over Mordechai Vanunu got ? Pretty similar to the situation re: Sellafield too oddly enough.

A few years ago I got into a really bizarre argument with a bloke who swore blind that Sellafield was a power stration. Imagine my surprise having lived downwind of the brute for most of my life and spending many hours talking to the folks who worked there. One of the original Chemical Engineers for the place actually died from cancer (quite possibly not related to his work for that plant) under our roof.
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A lot of people on here wouldn't know about Dimona.



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More of a case of refusing to admit to it's existance like every good Israeli should, can you blame them after the working over Mordechai Vanunu got ? Pretty similar to the situation re: Sellafield too oddly enough.

A few years ago I got into a really bizarre argument with a bloke who swore blind that Sellafield was a power stration. Imagine my surprise having lived downwind of the brute for most of my life and spending many hours talking to the folks who worked there. One of the original Chemical Engineers for the place actually died from cancer (quite possibly not related to his work for that plant) under our roof.


My uncle worked at Windscale (the precursor to Sellafield).
He was an engineer there.
He died of cancer at 39 years of age, over 30 years ago.

BNFL (or whatever it was called at the time) paid out a lot of hush money to my aunt and her family.
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My uncle worked at Windscale (the precursor to Sellafield).
He was an engineer there.
He died of cancer at 39 years of age, over 30 years ago.

BNFL (or whatever it was called at the time) paid out a lot of hush money to my aunt and her family.

Lim and Db. please read Crappys post #50 on the garlic thread where he has finally admitted after 2500 posts that he knows nothing about Israel and the Palestinians.
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More of a case of refusing to admit to it's existance like every good Israeli should, can you blame them after the working over Mordechai Vanunu got ? Pretty similar to the situation re: Sellafield too oddly enough.

A few years ago I got into a really bizarre argument with a bloke who swore blind that Sellafield was a power stration. Imagine my surprise having lived downwind of the brute for most of my life and spending many hours talking to the folks who worked there. One of the original Chemical Engineers for the place actually died from cancer (quite possibly not related to his work for that plant) under our roof.

Before it was BNFL it was titled United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority. UKAEA.
My late father was a QS during the time of all the Magnox reactors constructions.
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My uncle worked at Windscale (the precursor to Sellafield).
He was an engineer there.
He died of cancer at 39 years of age, over 30 years ago.

BNFL (or whatever it was called at the time) paid out a lot of hush money to my aunt and her family.

When it was first commisioned, it was known as Calder Hall.
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When it was first commisioned, it was known as Calder Hall.


Thanks Fred : when my uncle Peter died he worked at the facility known as Windscale.

The United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority or BNFL, paid over compensation without admitting liability, of course.

I would imagine that a lot of families were paid money under these circumstances.
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