No more politics!!!

Wurm

That is quite a disgusting statement. I'll bet you would have looked for some kind of help if you didn't have a vehicle or a means to flee the area, you disingenuous dolt. Staring down the barrel of a Cat. 4 or 5 killer and with no way out - no matter what the reason was - I think the gov't has a duty to help its citizens avoid an impending disaster, whatever it takes.

Let's go back well BEFORE Katrina even existed, to when for example, the Times-Picayune repeatedly and for years called for more money to shore up the levee system; and I believe there was an Army Corps of Engineers report that stated outright that the N.O. area needed the work done ASAP and needed it badly. It was obvious to all concerned that neither the City of N.O. nor the State of Lousiana could raise the needed funds by themselves.

What did Bush and the Repig Congress do? They CUT THE FEDERAL FUNDING that was earmarked for just these projects. Today, we've all seen the results of that criminal negligence.

However, apparently it's alright for Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) to sponge up millions in Fed tax dollars for the "Bridge To Nowhere" in his state? Just the other day he threatened to resign if those funds were withheld to go to the Katrina rebuilding effort.

Incredible, isn't it?

I can give you many more instances of this kind of greedy and avaristic behavior by the current Congress, which is DRIVEN BY the Bush agenda, but it's clear that you've stubbornly decided not to see the forest because the trees are in the way.

Clinton was another corporate lackey, and sold this country out very much like the scum that dwell in our Capitol today. NAFTA, GATT, and all the rest? I make no apologies for Bill Clinton. But he was not the extremist-type that we're dealing with now.

So please, don't go thumping your chest to me about how great of an 'American entrepreneur' you think you are, because I for one am not interested. Along with a good work ethic goes many other things that make a good and responsible citizen. Just because you work doesn't mean sh!t if you're still an asshole to others.

You, as much as anyone that lives here, have a responsibility to contribute your fair share to the country, state, locality that has made it possible for you to HAVE a business in the first place. Jefferson and other Founders also were not Social Darwinists.

It's guys like you that b!tch about people using up the tax revenue, yet you think you should get off free gratis.

Perhaps if you looked at others around you instead of thinking always of yourself, you might truly amount to something.

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The aim of big corporations is to separate fools from their money all of the time and ordinary folks from their money most of the time. The rest of us must fend for ourselves.

wolfix

Good point ..... Except that I do donate about 5 hours a week to something called "Catholic Worker House." I have doing so for about 4 years. I also had a fund raiser at my pub to raise money for the house.
http://www.catholicworker.org/

I also did work for the Special Olympics at the state level several years ago. I didn't get involved at an administration level , just as a gopher.

Habitat for Humanity...... I worked many hours for this organization. I was actually asked to be part of the local team in 1998, but I was unable to.
I just paid my daughters living expense for a month so she could do a Red Cross thing for Katrina.
The argument that you and I have is not that the people of NO are not devasted. Don't thump yourself on the chest unless you yourself have done something for humanity recently. The argument here is about blame. And something I have learned about pointing fingers.... When you point one at someone else, there are 3 pointing back at you.
You seem to want to blame the federal government for everything. And I may be wrong, but you actually seem to believe the stuff you write. I never have said that I should get off "free gratis." I came from a working family, paid my own way through college, and never have taken a dime from any government agency.
Somehow I bet you are a college student, armed with a few leftist newspapers , sitting in a coffee shop, and trying to figure out a way to extend that student grant for another year. It's just a feeling.
Most people that lean left [ after leaving college anyway] do so to justify their own failure to grasp the American dream. They want to point out the failures of others in an attempt to show their [ imagined] intellectual awareness.

limerickman

My mistake.
I should have quoted Baton Rouge and not New Orleans.
In the 1950's, Baton Rouge was the centre of peaceful civil protest initially by the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters and then on in to NAACP.

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morelike hypocrisy.

Chance3290

Its getting harder to take you seriously. Although it is fun to prod you and then sit back and read your rants. You may have may some valid points in the past, but you seem to be so full of hatred for...sometime, that whatever point you try to make just sounds like you haven't medicated today. You now come across as just another sad sack who, when not typing your vile, would be out preacher to a lamp post or sitting in a park, cussing at the pigeons.
You still haven't answer my earlier questions. City government is the first line of defense. There is no question about that. Why then, did your democratic mayor leave New Orleans before the hurricane struck? Why didn't he use the emergency plan that was in place? Why didn't he use those school buses to save the lives of thousands or poor, black citizens? Why do the levee committee members (mostly black, democrats) all have 6-figure salaries, new homes (no where near the levees) and new cars?
Please try to answer these questions, without ranting, swearing, or trying to turn things around.
You can rant all you want about Bush, FEMA, and moon men. But they have already said they should have acted quicker. (Except the moon men, who have made no comment) But mayor ray has blamed everyone, except himself. Explain that, before its time for your next pill.

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jhuskey

New Orleans is well know to be a hot bed of political corruption and has been for years.
Please lets accept that crooks come in all colors,shapes,sizes and political affiliation.

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2FAST4U

Perhaps we all become a little numb from hearing the “oops, I made a mistake”, Yes, I should have responded quicker” , Gosh, we should have thought about an exit strategy…bla, bla bla…………………..

Who has more power? The President or the good mayor you refer to here?



The problem here is you know what wurm says makes sense, yet you just don’t want to admit is hence the sarcastic “moon man” reference. Seems to me that you are the one suffering the “lunar” effect my friend.

Eldron

How come all the "lefties" finish their posts with "my friend"?

I think I've been Wurm's friend around 20 times by now.....

ptlwp

All Americans should be alarmed that our constitution is being perversed into an erosion of rights to privacy policies, THE INSISTENCE OF SOME GROUPS into turning our beloved country into a THEOCRACY.......which we are in Iraq and went to Afganistan, precisely to STOP, in theory and which maybe we have no right to instigate; no one would want a bully to come here and tell US how to do our business, why should other countries embrace us, as though WE were the "crown of creation" for only to some citizens of this land, feel that our every objective is sacred and needs to be put on the plate for the whole world to follow.

There are a few theocratic persons in this country who would like to take away individual liberties from minorities, in order to further their agenda, something that our constitution forbids, and G-d help us if there are any further erosions of our rights, no matter what the reasons are for, are argued for, are done to foment fear and divisiveness.

Together we stand, united we SHALL fall......

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Cannibal2

Interesting comment. Do you happen to have any examples you'd like to share?

wolfix

Examples would be nice. And yes, we have seen some individual liberties being taken away. And this bothers me. But the fact that the world is getting smaller everyday with the technology changes makes it easier for terriorist states to operate with-in our boundries. In America we have had it good in recent times as far as terriorism goes. 9/11 opened our eyes.
But let's get more basic for a moment. We talk about our privacy being invaded by the federal government but what about the real invasion of privacy .The CELL PHONE companies.... There are jerks running around with those photo-phones taking pics of people without permission. Then down loading them on their computers for all the world to share.
Europe has had to deal with terriorism longer then we have here in America. The Basques in Spain, the IRA in shamrock country, and the Germans with their consistent history behind them. I know if I was a King of an European country I would be looking over my shoulder at those barbarians. I can call them barbarians because I am from Germanic blood.
Terriorism is new to America. Our government has made some mistakes.

ptlwp

When people want to legislate what people do in the bedroom, how research is conducted, how and what should be taught to our children, be it separation from church and state.....we quibble about "under God" in our pledges but half the kids who graduate, that's the least of their problems.

How about fighting for substance? Like a good education, that will be comparable to those that kids are getting in the rest of the first world nations. How about stop quibbling about whether or not child molesters should be taken care of and stopped; who in hell is FOR child molesters, it is a non sequiter.

We have been terrorized by the Mafia, the James Gang, Bank Robbers, Bonnie & Clyde, Al Capone, Black Panthers, Symbionese Liberation Army, those that put us into irreparable places like Viet Nam or Iraq. We are assaulted by violations from the FBI, CIA, in the name of homeland security, anything goes. We are terrorized by computers, database banks, Equifax and credit card companies. We are assaulted eventually by our social security numbers, our PIN numbers, hackers who assault on a almost daily basis.

We are assaulted by people who publically call for the assassination of other nation's leaders, without any type of reprisal. We are the new Imperialists, trying to shove our way of life down everyone elses throats.

We are terrorized by the governments who want to soak up every penny of oil money, before it's all gone. We are assaulted by those who block energy efficient heating, automobiles and the like and who keep us chained to fossil fuels.

We are trapped by politicians who play up to fears that people have concerning homosexuals, the poor, the jobless, the indigent, the sick and the mouths with no voice.

We are terrorized by newspapers and TV news owned by other countries who have no interest in a better America.

We are terrorized by having had regulations that helped to make life more equitable, unions, regulations of the FCC, monopolies, the right to strike and nearly every person who died in the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory is terrorized by the specter of big business trashing the health and welfare of the human beings, who they would like to replace, yet are so far, dependent upon.

We are a terrorized people from within and without. As the middle class is wiped out, so is the strength of this country, so are the people who once had a say, mute. There is no longer, a voice for the common man, and both parties have abandoned them and they (the common man) have been tricked by deceptive and inflammatory advertisements, playing up to fears and divided this country to a point of perhaps no return.....if Rome fell, can anything be safe?

We are terrorized by the specter of bankruptcy, just as we gloated about the Soviet Union, we are in the midst of bankrupting our own government with lavish spending on NASA, not repairing our infrastructure, entitlements that entitle the rich at the price of the poor and disenfranchisement by the politicians who stuff their own wallets while the rest of us sink into a mire, not even being allowed to declare bankruptcy, after all the cards have been stacked against them; after the banks have robbed them and let them borrow way beyond their means.

Yes, we are a terrorized people.........

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Cannibal2

Forgive me if I missed the point but did you happen to answer my question somewhere in this lengthy piece?

Colorado Ryder

I can tell you that there was nothing in there about personal responsibility, just the continuing cycle of victimization. Might want to ask where that was cut and pasted from.

Cannibal2

I can't be sure if this is the case but I am curious about this particular comment: "There are a few theocratic persons in this country who would like to take away individual liberties from minorities,...." I wasn't expecting a "laundry list" of what is perceived as being wrong with the United States......