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Armstrong used EPO in 99?

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Old 24-08.-2005, 01:45 AM   #31
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No, WADA stated in late 1999 early 2000 that they have a test for EPO but they need more time to develop it so it was water tight. They made an announcement that they would be retrospectively back dating their testing from 1999 onwards. The UCI adopted this policy as well and made a statement to the same effect. This is probably why he didn't test positive in 2000 because he knew there was a valid EPO test.

So it all above board and was announced back in 1999 and was official policy of WADA and the UCI. It’s only now that L’Equipe have undertaken the cross referencing of the names of the riders tested and the coloration to the urine sample test result. So its not the French who are after him its just procedure that the UCI and WADA have followed.

Now if you're calling WADA and the UCI witch hunters and have the problem then I think you better slow down as you may have the problem !

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Can you say "Witch Hunt?" 99 urine samples! WTF! The French couldn't beat him for seven-That's right!-SEVEN years, so let's pull out some frozen piss and try again! Why keep samples for seven years other than the for the reason of trying to discredit a great rider.

Maybe the alians gave him some futureistic drug and the frozen samples can be tested in 3015?????????
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it is from reading this forum that i'm glad i'm from europe and able to understand what the proper cycling media write
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Jan has talked about the situation in his diary, i'm waiting for the english translation.
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Old 24-08.-2005, 01:55 AM   #34
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Give me the link and I'll do it for you....

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Old 24-08.-2005, 02:08 AM   #35
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he doesn't really say much about it aside from the fact that people were interested in the subject (duh) and that he would be disapointed if it were true.
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This is the best I can do in two minutes.... ! :-) Enjoy......

This morning we were all looking forward to the finish in Bonn. However we learned from our Marketing Manager Luuc Eisenga the reports in L’Equipe newspaper (or something like this or did he mean the team standing’s ? Jan’s German us worst than mine !). As I got stuck into my plate of Museli and fruit for breakfast Maste Kessler and Luuc informed us that Lance had tested positive in the 1999 Tour. Gerolsteiner were on the table next to us and naturally the same as us they were surprised just as we were by this report.


The story spread itself through the peleton like fire and was the subject of the day ! Each rider had their own opinions and thoughts on the matter and many discussed these with me. At this moment I don’t have all the information and it would be unwise to make further judgment or comment until the full story is received. However I would be disappointed if this report confirms to be true.

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Old 24-08.-2005, 02:26 AM   #38
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Nothing wrong with my translations right



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This is the best I can do in two minutes.... ! :-) Enjoy......

This morning we were all looking forward to the finish in Bonn. However we learned from our Marketing Manager Luuc Eisenga the reports in L’Equipe newspaper (or something like this or did he mean the team standing’s ? Jan’s German us worst than mine !). As I got stuck into my plate of Museli and fruit for breakfast Maste Kessler and Luuc informed us that Lance had tested positive in the 1999 Tour. Gerolsteiner were on the table next to us and naturally the same as us they were surprised just as we were by this report.


The story spread itself through the peleton like fire and was the subject of the day ! Each rider had their own opinions and thoughts on the matter and many discussed these with me. At this moment I don’t have all the information and it would be unwise to make further judgment or comment until the full story is received. However I would be disappointed if this report confirms to be true.
Your translation is superb!

We were all looking forward to a nice finale in Bonn. But then this morning we heard from our team press officer Luuc Eisenga, that L’Equipe were reporting that Lance allegedly tested positive in 1999. I had already filled up a bowl with muesli and fruit and had sat down at the breakfast table with Matse Kessler, when Luuc came in and broke the news to us. The Gerolsteiner riders were at the table beside us, and they were of course, just as surprised with the report as we were.

The news spread like wildfire and it was the big topic of conversation in the peloton during the day. Everybody heard something about it and we discussed it among each other. Right now, I, like everyone else, am not fully informed on the situation so I am not going to make any hasty judgements on what is just speculation. But it is clear that I would be very disappointed if there was truth behind the reports.

For me it is particularly important to congratulate Levi Leipheimer on the overall win. He and the whole Gerolsteiner rode a very solid tour and deserved the win.

Tomorrow I ma off to Jena for Jens Heppners farewell race – it is an absolute honour to be involved. Next week I am in action in Ravensburg and i will be a guest at the Eurobike in Friedrichhafen. But slowly my season is starting to wind down. I am really quite pleased about that, as I have noticed here at the Deutschland-Tour that I am really tired and that every day on the bike has been more of a struggle.
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or mine ! Vielen Dank fur euer Interesse!


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Your translation is superb!

Thank you ! No need to go back to German classes for me ! I actually learnt German at the Goethe institute in Munich and during my times there I was lucky enough to go to the same nightclub big Jan dropped his ecstasy tablet ! What a night !
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The press is finally starting to catch on to this story in the USA (12 hours later ...)

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&n...TRONG-C-COL.XML

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Old 24-08.-2005, 03:44 AM   #43
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Miguel Indurain says the accusations of doping made by French paper L'Equipe against Lance Armstrong are part of a campaign to discredit the American.

The Spaniard, a five-time Tour de France winner, also questioned the legality of claims against Armstrong.

"They have been out to get him in France for a number of years," Indurain told the website todociclismo.com.

"He's the one who knows about it, but it seems wrong that they are starting to dig over tests from years ago."

rmstrong has been plagued by accusations of drug abuse from elements of the French media since he won the first of his record seven Tour titles in 1999 after recovering from testicular cancer.

But L'Equipe has now claimed signs of the blood-boosting drug EPO have been detected in samples of Armstrong's urine from the 1999 race.

There were no tests for the drug then, but the paper claims samples have recently been retested by the specialist anti-doping laboratory outside Paris.

The Texan has always maintained he has never taken performance-enhancing drugs.

The International Cycling Union said there were no positive drug tests from the urine and blood samples taken on the 2005 Tour de France, when Armstrong took his seventh win.

Indurain, who won the Tour five straight times between 1991-1995, added: "It's all very strange. I don't know to what extent it is legal to keep specimens like this.

"Anything about Armstrong is news these days, but the question is whether all this is true or not.

"There are question marks over the reliability of the test (for EPO) and there are a lot of doubts about the whole thing."

Germany's Jan Ullrich, the 1997 Tour winner who was also second three times to Armstrong, told German television: "I heard about it, but these are speculations so you can't really say anything about it.

"It's been six years, and, if it's true, I would of course be disappointed.

"But I can't say anything on it right now. Lance is the greatest of our time and maybe somebody's trying to put him down. I don't know what it's about, so all of this is very speculative."

Swiss Alex Zuelle, who finished second behind Armstrong in the 1999 Tour, said: "I won't say anything about it because my career as a professional is over.

"I'm not Armstrong. All of this is speculation. Sometimes they have proof, then they haven't ... I'm not interested in it anymore.

"For me, the Tour is over and done with; it's just too many years back."

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The press is finally starting to catch on to this story in the USA (12 hours later ...)

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&n...TRONG-C-COL.XML

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The boss of the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) says the organisation is looking into the latest doping claims against cycling legend Lance Armstrong.

French paper L'Equipe claimed signs of EPO were found in samples of the seven-time Tour de France winner's urine from the 1999 race.

Armstrong has denied the claims but Wada president Dick Pound said: "It's a pretty serious story if it is true.

"We've not decided what we'd do because I've not looked at all the details."

Pound said Wada would not be able to make a judgement until it had seen all the evidence.

"We will look at the information available and then we will decide the best way to get as much light on this as possible," he said.

Tests on the samples from the 1999 race were carried out in 2004 because cycling's governing body did not start using a urine test for EPO until 2001, L'Equipe said.


Pound said the issue is a matter for the International Cycling Union (UCI) and USA Cycling, noting that Wada had not yet been formed when the samples were taken.

"But what is good for me is it's a lesson to anybody using drugs that we may not catch you on day one, but sooner or later, the truth will come out," said Pound.

"Now the riders involved have a serious responsibility to explain how it is that the substance got into the system."

Wada was launched in November of 1999, four months after the samples would have been taken from Armstrong during his first Tour de France triumph.

Armstrong says the L'Equipe article is part of a "witch-hunt".

He added: "I will simply restate what I have said many times: I have never taken performance-enhancing drugs."



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http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&n...TRONG-C-COL.XML

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Old 24-08.-2005, 04:18 AM   #45
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LA would have been on the phone to his lawyers asking them to check whether he is in technical breach of his endorsement contracts and whether this L'Equipe revelation will impact on the numerous lawsuits he has running at the current time (ex personal assistant Anderson, insurance claim, 'LA Confidential' publishers, etc).

Could be expense and income costly for him.
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