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Old 30-08.-2006, 02:39 AM   #16
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Chocolate milk is low GI. It's ok for some people but not for most. I think it comes out to your needing to drink something like 17 cups of skim milk to get the full amount of carbs needed for a 200 pound athlete to recover. Let's hope you're not lactose intolerant.

ric_stern is right, high GI foods. Everything else is marketing. Endurox is not necessary at all. Having said that I use it because it's a good foundation for my recovery "portfolio" if you will. General guideline is 1 gram carb per pound of body weight (though I think that should probably be lean body weight) eaten within a 2 hour window, reasonably spaced out in time - I use 30 minute blocks.

After the first 2 hours I eat a reasonably balanced meal and then try to drink plenty of water and eat helthy the rest of the day. YMMV, good luck. It sometimes takes a long time to get it all down.
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Old 02-09.-2006, 03:12 AM   #17
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Yep. Chocolate milk. It just feels so right going down.
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Old 02-09.-2006, 03:16 AM   #18
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General guideline is 1 gram carb per pound of body weight (though I think that should probably be lean body weight)


for recovery, the guideline, is generally, 1.5 g/kg body mass (not lean body mass).

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Old 02-09.-2006, 03:24 PM   #19
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Chocolate milk is low GI. It's ok for some people but not for most. I think it comes out to your needing to drink something like 17 cups of skim milk to get the full amount of carbs needed for a 200 pound athlete to recover.
17 cups of skim milk would be 1462 Calories or 136 grams of protein and 204 grams of carbs. Chocolate skim milk has roughly double the Calories of plain skim mik, so you would be consuming around 3000 Calories. A 200 lb. athlete would do fine with 24 oz. of chocolate milk for a recovery drink.

Some chocolate milk has about a 4:1 carb to protein ratio if you believe in that Endurox B.S.
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Old 08-11.-2006, 03:47 AM   #20
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well i found that the best recovery drink ever is CHOCALATE MILK it works sooo well try it after ur next ride

there was a study which proved choc milk is better than accelerade!
i go for graoe nuts dried fruit and whey protein with lemon amino acid powder sprinkle don top
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Old 09-11.-2006, 12:02 AM   #21
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These sorts of drinks are rubbish and don't help recovery. The WDA strongly warn against such supplements as they might have additional extras that can cause a positive dope test.

To improve your recovery, aim for very high glycaemic carbs with a small amount of protein

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I've spoken to a few sports nutritionalists who agree with Ric's standpoint on energy drinks/shakes - basically they are full of sh1t. I prefer to eat naturally high GI food and protein (3 or 4:1 ratio) within 2 hours of a race. The little bit of protein helps with the insulin response. Keep it natural!!!
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Old 09-11.-2006, 02:37 AM   #22
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I've spoken to a few sports nutritionalists who agree with Ric's standpoint on energy drinks/shakes - basically they are full of sh1t. I prefer to eat naturally high GI food and protein (3 or 4:1 ratio) within 2 hours of a race. The little bit of protein helps with the insulin response. Keep it natural!!!

whats your call on recovery bars?
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Old 09-11.-2006, 02:42 AM   #23
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I've spoken to a few sports nutritionalists who agree with Ric's standpoint on energy drinks/shakes - basically they are full of sh1t. I prefer to eat naturally high GI food and protein (3 or 4:1 ratio) within 2 hours of a race. The little bit of protein helps with the insulin response. Keep it natural!!!


there's no evidence supporting a 3 or 4 to 1 ratio of carbs to protein

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Old 09-11.-2006, 03:38 AM   #24
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whats your call on recovery bars?
I don't use 'recovery bars' as such so I can't really comment. I prefer to use organic cereal type bars with oats, dried fruit and honey. I tried a protein bar once and it tasted like sh1t.

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there's no evidence supporting a 3 or 4 to 1 ratio of carbs to protein
Just a personal preference...

I'm a 'listen to your body' type (if you hadn't guessed already)
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Old 09-11.-2006, 03:44 AM   #25
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I don't use 'recovery bars' as such so I can't really comment. I prefer to use organic cereal type bars with oats, dried fruit and honey. I tried a protein bar once and it tasted like sh1t.

Just a personal preference...

I'm a 'listen to your body' type (if you hadn't guessed already)

any recepies?
as you can see form my homemade granola im an own recepies fan and i adore dried fruits especially cherries mmmmm
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Old 09-11.-2006, 12:12 PM   #26
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I have no problems with my energy levels after races or training, however I suffer from slow recovery times. My legs hurt to touch for several days following training (particularly) and racing.
I have increased my protien intake, and eat primarily complex carbs.
My upper body is well built but feel that I am having trouble putting muscle on my legs.

Has anyone seen these symptoms before, suugestions anyone?

It's not about energy levels that need to be recovered. It's your muscles. I use muscle milk. It works for me. It tastes good too.
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Old 09-11.-2006, 01:01 PM   #27
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Best sort of recovery drinks in everybodys opinion.I used to always use Isostar, directly after training and races as well as eating some carbs and protein shortly after(within 20mins)

I have being trying using maxim(carb and electrolyte) but mixing it with some whey protein, so that im getting carbs,protein and replacing lost minerals as well.(tastes pretty strange tho).

Whats everyones post training/racing feed?

Recent Studies at the Australian Institute of Sport have found that one of the best things to consume after a race or hard training ride is a Big M, or any other brand of Milkshake that you can buy at the servo on the way home. These drinks were found to have a good amount of both carbohyrdates and protein.
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Old 09-11.-2006, 03:27 PM   #28
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well i found that the best recovery drink ever is CHOCALATE MILK it works sooo well try it after ur next ride

Love chocalate milk I just cant get it away form my kids. I think there are a few great products on the market with a good balance of carbs/protien in any ratio form 4/1 to 7/1 finding the one you like to drink and can afford is the right one for you.
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Old 23-11.-2006, 08:33 AM   #29
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He’s right.



I was talking to my nutritionist today and they said the best recovery drink was chocolate milk. USADA and WADA doesn’t like it either. It can make it show up positive and on some pro riders it did. The USADA and WADA have pretty grim restrictions so i would say stay with the basics. If you get anything make sure it is USADA or WADA approved. This is if you have to take drug tests.
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Old 02-01.-2007, 11:56 AM   #30
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I'm curious what about Soda?

I heard the carbonation helps it digest faster or something, even though the GI isnt too high.

And of course protein from a different source

I've been having chocolate milk made skim milk lately with the chocolate syrup, throwing in some glutamine along with it, It's about a 4:1 carb ratio with very very little fat.
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