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30-07.-2005, 12:22 AM
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Re: Armstrong produced 30 more watts in 2005 than 1999
Roland Green, two-time world mountain bike champion, tested positive for an ashmtha medication that he had a prescription for along with tests confirming his condition. Factually, almost an identical situation as the Lance corti steriod case since Roland failed to declare on his TUE that he was prescribed and using the medicine. The result: 6 month suspension with acknowledgement from the UCI that he never tried to intentionally dope. The main distinction to be drawn from the two cases is that the UCI operated under its own code of conduct at the time of the Lance positive, and now operates under the stricter WADA requirements.
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30-07.-2005, 06:59 AM
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Re: Armstrong produced 30 more watts in 2005 than 1999
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you believe Powerbars are the reason for the increase in average speeds at the tour hahahhahahahhhaha hahahahahahahhaha hahahahahahhaahhaah  |
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30-07.-2005, 07:16 AM
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well done flyer on keeping us all posted on the latest cheats its the clean guys who we should be cheering and ostrasising the cheats great quote from kimmage on pantani the guy was a cheat and his death was his own fault |
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31-07.-2005, 12:19 AM
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Re: Armstrong produced 30 more watts in 2005 than 1999
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Ahhhh, jumping to conclusions eh? Better roads, better bikes, better training methods, more gearing to use, better aerodynamics, better training methods all added to better sports nutrition makes it obvious why speeds have gone up...at least to those of us with common sense and not the obsessive desire to brandish anything and anyone involved in cycling and not claiming everyone is doping as "pro doping." Run along now. |
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31-07.-2005, 12:49 AM
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Re: Armstrong produced 30 more watts in 2005 than 1999
House man...you are so naieve! Why can't you just admit that our beloved sport is riddled with cheats?! Man...this sport is one of the most dirty there is! You obviously know very little about it's history and the rampant drug use at even local levels.
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31-07.-2005, 01:38 AM
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Re: Armstrong produced 30 more watts in 2005 than 1999
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Another one who says things with nothing to base them on. I have said over and over that I know there is doping in cycling but people like you, Patrick and Coward, ignore that to try to make your points. Why don't you try Cowards tactic and find an article on google and keep reposting, that will make you look like a real expert. If you did some research on doping you would realise that cycling is no worse then any other sport. |
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31-07.-2005, 01:53 AM
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borg is not saying that cycling is worse than other sports dope wise just that cycling is riddled with drugs and i totally agree. we have all done plenty of research on cycling and we all know the truth 90% of the peleton are on drugs |
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31-07.-2005, 01:58 AM
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you're argument is awful so you are stating that a candy bar increases your average speed and makes you climb mountains like a goat hahhahaah you are so stupid and PRO DOPING it is laughable Better sports nutrition? they still eat the same foods, and the equipment is slightly better so no reason for a major improvment better training methods? armstrong was trained by ferrari as was most of the peleton in the early 90s so ferrari magically came up with a great training regime that can turn average riders in to tour de france winners? i wonder what that is ? hahahhahhahahhahahhaha |
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31-07.-2005, 02:01 AM
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well said borg,nice to see their is someone out there who does not have their head stuck in the sand like an ostrich i'd rather cheer on local riders than some drugged up(Wrestling look alike) freeks allez voeckler,pineau,gilbert,bassons etc... |
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31-07.-2005, 02:02 AM
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Hmmmmm. The one hour record is a good indicator of whether "improvements" are genuine. Merckx 1972 record at altitude (and after a gruelling season with many wins including the TDF/Giro double and four classic wins) was 49kms. Then that paragon of virtue Moser moved the recod up in 1984 and then Indurain/Obree/Rominger took the record on to the mid 50kmph speeds. The UCI decided to scrap the Rominger/Indurain/Obree era because "improvements" were deemed "ambiguous". Boardman decided to take a crack at Merckx old record using the same model bike at sea level in 2000. Boardman beat Merckx record by, ahem, the princely total, of 10 metres. Maybe Boardman wasn't drinking enough Gatorade ? |
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31-07.-2005, 02:52 AM
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Re: Armstrong produced 30 more watts in 2005 than 1999
So first we have Patrick who talks of "candy bars" and says sports nutrition has not changed. You say equipment is "slightly better" You say training methods aren't better today. Can you make yourself look like a bigger fool????? Go do some research, learn about cycling and then come back and try having a discussion, until then it's a waste to talk to someone with so little knowledge and so much of an agenda.
By the way, a little research will also tell you that in the Tour in the past they would ride easily the first couple of hours and the racing would start later. Famous story about Hinault declaring an easy day and having a rider decide to go off the front...he rode him down an admonished him and the peloton agreed. learn your history young man. Then we have Limerick, who breaks out the hour record, and then talks of the UCI erasing "ambiguous" records...oh wait they used (wait for it) better technology! Thanks for proving my point lim! You also talk about a guy at the end of his career beating the greatest cyclist of all times record...which was set during his prime. Great comparison.  Thanks for the laughs guys...again. |
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