The mystery of Lances lost body weight

Originally Posted by lumpy

You're on the money House with both comments.


I used to dig ditches for a living and have the arms, upper body strength and size to prove it. Hard physical labor caused my body to develop where it needed to. I didn't need steroids to get 17" arms. However because of my size, I pay dearly on rides.
Lance built his muscles where he needed them, core strength and legs. Of course the cardio too.

I'm getting so tired of Flyer hijacking threads and beating us over the head with his incessant dope rants. Fine, he has an opinion and I respect that, but I'm sure tired of reading it everywhere.

Originally Posted by Patrick1983

HOUSE

you are clearly a pro doper



DRUG CHEATS OUT!!!

Originally Posted by House

And you clearly another idiot. Still waiting for you to respond to all the comments about how you can dictate where you put on muscle. You have chosen the path of the biggest moron on these forums, calling anyone who doesn't agree with you "pro doping." Here is a challenge for you, should you be man enough to accept it::

1)Show me one post I have made where I say I am for doping
2)Show one medical study that proves that you can't "dictate where muscle goes"

I am guessing you won't accept the challenge and will simply respond like the post I am responding to. Do you have the balls to give it a try?

Originally Posted by Patrick1983

obviously you can dictate where muscle goe by training that area
weightlifting=upper body
cycling=legs etc.....

so i was wrong,sorry!

Originally Posted by lumpy

As someone wisely posted, Lance can open a can of whoop ass on the peloton any day he wants.
He's never failed a drug test. Where I live, innocence is assumed until proven guilty.
Being a cancer survivor and his foundation are clearly very important to him. If he were caught cheating, how would that effect his foundation and anti-cancer efforts? The publicity would be devastating, not only for the foundation, but for fellow cancer patients, and I argue he'd never risk that.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that he is a physical specimen unlike all others?

Originally Posted by House

Well I have proven with that picture that his muscle did come back differently, very climber like. Having cancer did not improve his climbing, it helped him reshape himself, but the biggest effect was that it made him mentally stronger. It's well documented that his training and focus are much better now that pre-cancer...I guess that comes from facing death or simply the possability of losing your career. Perhaps instead of trying to prove he is on drugs why don't you do some research on what has made him great. Try looking up an article on google called "The Science of Lance Armstrong, Born, and Built, to Win" read this and others you find with an open mind and you might be surprised what you learn. Keep a closed mind and you will simply ignore facts that don't fit your agenda.

Originally Posted by Flyer

Without cheating there would be NO CANCER FOUNDATION!!!!

Without cheating there would not have been Cancer either.

Without cheating there is no winning, no results, no corporate renewal. No funding.

Cheating and lying are essential to commercial success in pro sports.

It is the 'blood doping protocol' which wins a TDF.


Wake up!

Originally Posted by House

So you look like a complete fool, completely losing any credibility you might have had on something so obvious and so basic.



a) your opinion is based on trying to prove Lance as a fraud, so it's not worth much

b) how about a pic that is similar to the post-cancer one, i.e. an ITT standing pic, like this one:

http:www.lancearmstrong.com/lance/online2.nsf/Docs/75DD5f491ca2e85e86256b300006bb95

the difference is quite obvious isn't it?
He is listed at 165lbs in a number of places, has a lower body fat % then pre-cancer and is known to race the Tour at a lower weight then that.


Well I have proven with that picture that his muscle did come back differently, very climber like. Having cancer did not improve his climbing, it helped him reshape himself, but the biggest effect was that it made him mentally stronger. It's well documented that his training and focus are much better now that pre-cancer...I guess that comes from facing death or simply the possability of losing your career. Perhaps instead of trying to prove he is on drugs why don't you do some research on what has made him great. Try looking up an article on google called "The Science of Lance Armstrong, Born, and Built, to Win" read this and others you find with an open mind and you might be surprised what you learn. Keep a closed mind and you will simply ignore facts that don't fit your agenda.

Originally Posted by Patrick1983

hahahahaha

these "facts" you claim to read are direct from lance and his cronies
what do you expect them to say -"yeah hes on drugs"

i stated i was wrong with regard to the statement on muscle placement something which you are clearly incapable of doing

the picture of him in the tt looks no different than from today only a looser jersey.

as for kissing his ass,i am not the sad pathetic loser who copies him with statements like"Troll" etc.....you make yourself look like an 8 yr old

i bet when you cycle you pretend you are him


hahahahahahaha

Originally Posted by House

Thanks for the intelligent response, this proves exactly what you are a troll. As I have now told you three times, troll came around well before Lance, but judging by your posts I would expect that it would take a lot more then three times for an intelligent thought to get in your head. I will add you to the troll ignore list. Nice swatting you around though.