What do you eat/drink on bike?

Cheesy

While I like jitmo's wine idea as I'm a bit of an alcoholic, I would usually take something like:

Banana or 2
Honey or jam sandwich
Sometimes I take a tube of honey - usually for if I'm planning on really hitting the hills hard.
If I'm going to end up a long way from home, or anywhere to buy food - then I often take a powerbar in case I bonk.

Sometimes I use sports drink, sometimes not (will often depend on temperature), but I usually add some salt to whatever I'm drinking.

If I'm riding a little longer (over 5-6hr), I will take a bum bag with some extra food in, or make sure that there will be a shop to stop at for lunch.

Roadie_scum

MCT's are a bit dicey in the old Gastro-intestinal tract aren't they? I've always been a little worried about using products that contain them. Am I misguided? I heard they shredded a fair portion of Chris Legh's lower intestine in Hawaii (he's a top-ranked Australian ironman).

ric_stern/RST

i'm not overly well up on MCT's. i thought there was a paucity of data or it was all very equivocal...

i just mentioned that the orange flavour had MCTs so that someone didn't post i was incorrect (rather than i was making a positive suggestion to use them. however, i wasn't overly clear on that).

gotta dash, Tour is calling!

ric

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Felt_Rider

MCT's can be a little tough on the system, but probably varies on intensity per individual.

http://www.uspharmd.com/packageinsert/m/MCT_Oil.html

http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/90/4/1239

A lot of other links listed in the references in the previous link.
Two of those links below

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abs...pe2=tf_ipsecsha

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...5&dopt=Abstract

Yes, time to go check on the TDF data.

HoWheels

Just wanted to say that I got a laugh out of this

-a

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Felt_Rider

I just wanted to clarify something as my last post suggests that MCT's can irritate all individuals.

I have used MCT's back in the late 90's when it was more popular and I only remember a couple of times that it irritated my digestive system and that was due to using too much at one time.

I was actually thinking the other day about looking for MCT's again, but at the moment I am already using several types of oils and seeds in my diet.


I did learn something a couple weeks ago about another supplement the hard way. I experimented with a premixed pre exercise drink that had caffiene, niacin and AKG Arginine alpha-Ketoglutarate as a vasodialator. I was just curious what nitrous oxide NO2 could do to performance.

Bad Mistake for me as I already have blood pressure problems.
I knew the moment I started pedaling for a warmup that my heart rate shot up over 160 and I was in trouble. The next 40 miles was a complete struggle and a training disaster. I could barely put in any effort without peaking my heart rate.

Again not all supplements effect each the same, but that is what happened to me on this particular mixture. Typically I don't experiment, but since I sometimes consult with people I have to know a little bit about a variety of supplements. I should have known purely from the ingredients what the outcome would be, but sometimes I am hard headed.

serpent950

Have you ever been pulled over for under the influence!

jitmo

Oh no, of course not. haha. I actually got this idea from a bike racing book a few years ago. I forget the proper European name of the sandwich, but i thought "Yuck!" Then i tried it and it really is yummy when your depleted (or almost).I've even tried turkey, cheese, and grape jam on this combo. I'm sure you know a couple tablespoons of wine doesn't affect your cycling skills nor cause dehydration.

stormer94

Doesn't mean any of this is right, but what I'm tinkering with at this point.

On a 50k training ride, low zone, I'll start with a banana and about 50 grams of oatmeal for breakfast. Little Cytomax to wash it down.

No additional foods on a ride but about 300 calories (48 ounces) of Cytomax drink per hour if it's hot out, if overcast about 150.

On a longer day say 100-150k, I'll have a banana for breakfast and about 100 grams of oatmeal. On the ride (lately) I'm trying to consume about 100-150 calories every 20-30 minutes from things like powerbars and gels.

I appreciate the convenience of powerbars and gels, etc, but am growing weary of them. I'm going to try some real food on Saturday. Gonna put in 5 hours in the saddle. Gonna take some bagles with jelly, some cookies, some chips (for the salt). Almost sounds like a picnic!

Right now, I'm trying to wrap my head around calorie uptake and CHO oxidation. Although I seem to be able to eat about anything while on the bike, there is no sense eating it if your system doesn't do anything with it, because it's already busy.

I see Mitosis mentioned the 1gr of CHO per kilo of body weight, and I am starting to feel this is more accurate (but I still have some real problems with that formula, that should be addressed in a different thread). I've been working with my bood sugars and watching the foods move through my system. I'm not diabetic, just curious about how it all works together... for my system.

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"Was" 39 year old guy Blood pressure: 143/84, Resting Pulse: 68, weight: 230
"summer 2004" 40 year old guy. Blood pressure: 121/66, Resting pulse: 45, weight: 175
1-1-2005 Blood pressure: 115/55, Resting pulse: 44, weight: 170
6-1-2005 Blood pressure: 105/52, resting pulse: 40, weight: 175
40k-TT, 1:05

stormer94

GOOD GOD!!!

I just ate 1/2 a bagel for a midday snack, with some peanut butter and jelly on it...

estimated at:
350 calories, 46 carbs, 20gr of fat, 11gr of protein.

Glad I didn't make and eat the other half, CRIKEY!

Also, having done that, how exactly are you guys eating jellied up bagels on a ride? They're a mess !

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"Was" 39 year old guy Blood pressure: 143/84, Resting Pulse: 68, weight: 230
"summer 2004" 40 year old guy. Blood pressure: 121/66, Resting pulse: 45, weight: 175
1-1-2005 Blood pressure: 115/55, Resting pulse: 44, weight: 170
6-1-2005 Blood pressure: 105/52, resting pulse: 40, weight: 175
40k-TT, 1:05

slgeo1

That honey sandwich that was mentioned earlier, I just typed into dietclub.com.au to find out the details. I assumed wholemeal bread:

Cals 284cals
Fat 9.9g
Prot. 6.2g
Carb. 43.2g
Fiber 3.9g

Roadie_scum

Are you deep frying the honey sandwich and adding tuna? Mine has about 40g of CHO in the bread, 0.5-1g of fat, plus the CHO from the honey. 0-1g of Protein. That's it.

slgeo1

LOL no that's just 2 slices wholemeal bread, 1 serve butter, and 1tbsp honey. According to dietclub anyway; if you think their stats are wrong feel free to email them I imagine things like the brand of bread and whether you have butter makes a big difference.

karries

I am using a bar/cookie. The recipe I got on this site.It really works for me.Did a 105 the otherday using this and it worked really well.As for a drink I am currently experimenting with a couple of options will post results.