child molesters

MountainPro

i really do not mean any disrespect by this, but come back when you have children and we will have ths conversation again....your attitude will be different.

when you become a parent you will suddenly have a whole new range of emotions and feelings that you never new existed. When you think that there may be someone out there that wished to harm your child in such a horrific way you will do anything to protect them. These feelings arent rational and arent logical but that is what children require to be safe in this world.

there used to be a guy years ago that lived in the next town to me...he abused his two daughters (and was convicted and served his time)....everytime he walked down the street the parents would shout 'beast' at him...the children would call him 'the beast'...

the guy could rot in hell for all i cared.

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Fixey

I thought my post might rattle some cages. In my absence I see I got a good pasting which is what I expected, now some back ground....
I have 3 children.
I am a foster parent to 7 other children from varying backgrounds
I am a professional in the youth and criminal social work fields

Follow this logic... a child comes into my care, lets say a 7 year old boy. He has been abused physically and sexually by his uncle. He is a victim in every sense of the word. He is from a low decile family who put little or no importance in schooling and have little or no parenting skills. The government then pour their best efforts into this poor victim but to no avail. At age 12 he sexually molests another boy in my care. At what stage did the victim become an inhuman monster to be hated and vilified?

An American theorist named Carl Rogers theorised that all humans are born basically good with a desire to please and be good. Although I don't back this theory 100% I think he is right in most cases. That leaves us to believe that we are a product of our experiences and teachings and although healthy well adjusted people will always have the ability to challenge their teachings by developing a sense of right and wrong alot of people don't grow up well adjusted with healthy minds....

I know that goes against the great American ethos of individual responsibility but I believe that Individual Responsibly is espoused by an elitist culture that refuses to take responsibility for the damage it does to its less fortunate.

I know this is an emotional subject, we all want to protect our children. Raising my children in this enviroment has made me very aware of the need to protect my kids. Over the years I have been here my children have been hurt on occasion and but for good fortune my 6 year old son nearly lost his inocense to an 8 year old girl. I have seen a 7 year old boy recieving oral sex from his 5 year old sister (should he get the death penalty?). But at the end of the day emotion must be removed from the subject in order to move on, for the victim, the offender and their families.

madfather

i'm a father my daughter was molested when she was 4.
the sick sob only got 5 years.
thats not enough for what he did.
when he gets out he is mine. there will be justice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DiabloScott

My sympathies - but did you come on this site and search on "MICHAEL JACKSON" or did you google +ULTEGRA +MOLESTOR or just how did you decide to top this 7-month old thread?

See "Tookie Williams" thread for some discussion of sick sob's.

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stevebaby

Obviously you didn't.
4 1/2 years as a police officer.

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Chance3290

And, as we all know, police officers are immune from being child molesters, just as Priests are.
OHHHH. It was sooo wrong to say, but it felt sooo right!!

Honestly, I've never met a police officer who wished anything but misery and death for child molesters.

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jhuskey

You can't possibly expect me to remember what I posted, and why, 7 months ago.
However I do not suffer from memory loss......I enjoy it completely!

Why only 4 years on the force?

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stevebaby

I did 2 years as a general duties cop so I could get into the water police.After 2 years as a water police officer I had to transfer to another branch (departmental regs.).I spent the next 6 months dealing with violent drunks.
The prisoners were just as bad.
Then I took all the leave owed to me and went travelling,got a job on a trawler along the way and never looked back.
Being a cop is nothing like you see on tv.Most of the time it's office work,typing statements,and standing around courtrooms waiting to give evidence.Cops tend to socialise with other cops (most civilians have something to feel guilty about,even if it's only a traffic offence,and avoid cops in social situations) and they tend to become pretty narrow minded as a result.
You do get to meet a lot of bimbos though.
I also suffer from memory loss.
And another thing,I also suffer from memory loss.
Did I mention my problem with memory loss?

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stevebaby

No particular group in any society is immune.For what it's worth,most of them are nice middle class citizens,outwardly.Most of them are also conservative and religious ,on the outside .Most of them are related to their victims too,which is why many never get caught.As for the ones who do get caught,most of them have been victims themselves.That in no way excuses them,but it goes some way to explaining why they think it's not wrong.Unfortunately,many of today's victims are going to be tomorrow's molesters.What astonishes me is the number of mothers who could not have failed to realise what was happening and chose to ignore it for fear that their husband/boyfriend would leave them.That is far more common than you would believe.

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jhuskey

Child molesting,the gift that keeps on giving. Another example that humans behave in accordance with their environment and by experience.
A shame that not everone is as well adjusted as me.
My only hang up is a latent breast feeding fetish...and actually the content is not the issue, just the container.

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Chance3290

While its true that most molesters are related to, or are familiar with their victims, I have never seen anything saying that most are church-going conservatives (or athiest liberal).
The 'circle of violence' tends to keep them from fulfilling any potential they had. They tend to be lower to lower-middle class people.
I did see a TV show this week that talked about how naive we were 20 years ago, teaching kids the Stranger Danger program.

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stevebaby

Many of them deliberately seek out situations of authority and trust (priests,ministers,scoutmasters,youth workers ,teachers and yes,policemen.)I don't pretend to be an expert but from what I've seen and heard from people with more experience an authoritarian nature is quite common.Others,of course, are weak pathetic individuals who are unable to relate to adults.I haven't taken that much interest,but from memory the cases reported locally involved 2 judges,a couple of teachers,a scoutmaster, a cop,a city mayor and any number of priests and ministers.
I don't care to look up any statistics on this,the subject depresses me.

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Chance3290

I agree 100%, well, 99%. The positions you've mention are not really high paying or even considered mid-middle class type lifestyles. And notice how jobs like scoutmaster, youth worker, ice cream truck operator always make there way into perferred job list. Also all the jobs you mention allow one on one adult/child contact without question.
And, unfortunately, I've had to look up the stats. But you are right, they depress and disgust me. But know thy enemy. Knowledge is power. etc.

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stevebaby

Just to get away from the original topic,what do you consider "middle class".The judges were receiving around 4 times an average salary (as opposed to a median salary)the mayor (frank arkell,murdered by one of his victims) was a multi millionaire as was one of his cronies (committed suicide ) and teachers are surely considered "middle class".So are ministers and priests for that matter.Class is surely not equal to income?

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