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U.S. Military Toll in Iraq Crosses 1,700

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Old 14-06.-2005, 01:06 PM   #16
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When will Bill Clinton's daughter enlist to fight this just war?

Her father did'nt start this "just" war One Republican from N. Carolina has already read the tea-leaves or writing on the wall, as it were; and decided to break ranks (yesterday) w/ his fearless leader-Bush & his sychophants.
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Old 14-06.-2005, 10:18 PM   #17
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please, you're too much. Espouse as much about A, B, C, D, and E as you want, but everything you describe here is far from what I would call a "recreational drug scene."


Dealing and trafficking goes hand in hand with consumption.

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You know nothing of the culture inside the U.S. military nor the general character of the folks within, good or bad. Please don't pretend as though you do.


Perhaps it's just "a few bad apples", eh ?
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Old 15-06.-2005, 06:09 AM   #18
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The US military is legendary for trafficking of Heroin and Cocaine.

Exhibit A) The explosion of Opium export in Afghanistan since the US took over (the Taleban had nearly eliminated that trade).
Exhibit B) Columbia, direct CIA involvement (and fund raising) via Cocaine rackets.
Exhibit C) US servicemen wanted by the Columbian authorities for exporting a non-trivial amount of Cocaine.
Exhibit D) USAF aircraft falling out of the sky while the pilots remained high as kites.
Exhibit E) Cambridge being the Cocaine/Heroin centre in the UK, nearest international point of entry the US airbases that surrounded it. Circumstantial evidence admittedly, but that is almost certainly because the local Police were not allowed to investigate US servicemen.

... And so on ...

Oh god...you have got to be kidding me...tell me something, did the aliens provide you with this information? or better yet is the US Military somehow using the LochNess Monster to transport the drugs?
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Old 15-06.-2005, 06:20 AM   #19
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Oh god...you have got to be kidding me...tell me something, did the aliens provide you with this information? or better yet is the US Military somehow using the LochNess Monster to transport the drugs?


Don't be a pillock like your friend Flappy.

All that stuff is there for you to read in the Newspapers.

Newsflash for you buddy : Soldiers are not angels, US servicemen are no exception. Sorry if that comes as a shock to you.

The crash in supply when the Taleban were in charge of Afghanistan is also well documented, a UK police report even confirmed it on the basis of seizures. Furthermore the surge in supply since the US took over Afghanistan has also been well documented and has also been confirmed by the UK police on the basis of seizures.
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Old 16-06.-2005, 02:26 AM   #20
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Far more alarming is the list of wounded. This number hovers around some 7000 or more. We often dismiss the term "wounded" as irrelevant but "wounded" means some poor guy has to go through his life without legs, arms, or badly disfigured. So, in a way I have to admire people who went to Iraq believing it was right for them to do so (on the evidence presented to them) but I believe Bush and Rumsfeld are responsible for putting these people at risk for their damned oil.
Coupled with this you have soldiers who suffered psychological trauma and have problems living their lives without feeling depressed or traumatised.
Kerry criticized this whole idea of putting troops on the ground and Clinton would never have done it.
But the irony here is Madonna was right to have done that video American life that featured people being maimed and wounded (but she backed out releasing it at the outbreak of war).




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Well, two years later: death toll for US military exceeds 1,700. What more to say?
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Old 16-06.-2005, 02:30 AM   #21
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There's something damned weird as well. Caligula was a great speech maker and had artistic talents, Hitler wrote a book, Stalin studied Marx and Engels but Bush????
He has trouble stringing a coherent phrase together.

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Let's face it : War is rarely justified. It usually boils down to some drug addled lunatic getting a Napoleon complex.

* Napoleon throught he could run the world better and make France great.
* Hitler thought he could run the world better and make Germany great.
* Saddam thinks he can run the world better and make Iraq great.
* Bush thinks he can run the world better and make America great.
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Old 16-06.-2005, 02:47 AM   #22
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"My answer is bring them on."—On Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003undefined
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Naw, that's no use at all Flappy, unless you believe that drugs are transported by flying saucer. Last time I checked there weren't any reports of Policemen searching for drugs in UFOs at border crossings. Only a pillock like you, Flaps, would try to duck the issue by making such a bold leap of fantasy.
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If I'm recalling correctly, the only Senator
who has a son or daughter serving in the military is
Sen. Joe Biden, a Democrat.

oh here's another one
Sen Tim Johnson's (Democrat) son served in Iraq in 2003.
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Old 17-06.-2005, 09:35 AM   #27
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1,700+ troops dead.
The injury list for US soldiers also increases.
Walter Reed hospital last year - the Cheif Medical officer there told Newsnight that 8,000 troops (and not 3,000 troops as stated by the Pentagon) had been
admitted since March 2003.
The 8,000 statistic was given in an interview by the CMO in June 2004.
A year ago.

Would it be fair to suggest that this figure has doubled in the last 12 months ?
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Old 17-06.-2005, 12:12 PM   #28
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Do you know if the pentagon is releasing the actual number of purple hearts it's awarding?
If I'm remembering correctly, a few months before the election, say spring of '04, the pentagon was refusing to say. I did see a news report at that time quoting a Military type to the effect that there had been 12,000 medical evac's. Right about that time the pentagon started a different counting method and seemingly 'lost' a significant number of WIA's. Of course the media never picked up on it.
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Do you know if the pentagon is releasing the actual number of purple hearts it's awarding?
If I'm remembering correctly, a few months before the election, say spring of '04, the pentagon was refusing to say. I did see a news report at that time quoting a Military type to the effect that there had been 12,000 medical evac's. Right about that time the pentagon started a different counting method and seemingly 'lost' a significant number of WIA's. Of course the media never picked up on it.


I recall that too. Strange. The figures at the Whitehouse press-conferences didn't seem to add up at all, not for the first time of course. It's hard to keep up with the BS that the Whitehouse punts, I think this is why people are focussing on a subset of issues.

You only have to look at Flappy to see that the Whitehouse's BS campaign is working. I bet that Flappy thinks it's great that his pals returning from the front in pieces are swept under the carpet.
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CMO at Walter Reed in mid-2004 was asked about the 3,000 Pentagon injured
figure.
The CMO said that the Pentagon based their number on the basis of "serious" injuries.
What, in the CMO's opinions, did the Pentagon consider serious ?
According to the CMO, the Pentagon's definition of serious injury was injuries like being a quadraplegic as a result of action in Iraq.
The CMO said that there was no account of injuries such as broken legs/arms
in the Pentagon numbers
The CMO also said that there was no account of psychological breakdowns
suffered by soldiers in the Pentagon numbers.
In other words only injuries deemed "serious" are catalogued in the injury list.

The CMO said that every single admission to Walter Reed to June 2004 is documented and the running total to June 2004 = 8,000.

When asked why he thought there was such a disparity between the Pentagon figure of 3,000 injured and WR number of 8,000 injured- the CMO suggested that the Pentagon and the US authorities were interested in minimising the number to reduce "benefit payments to it's injured soldiers" and "to minimise the real extent of injuries and the threat of injury while serving in Iraq".
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