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Her father did'nt start this "just" war One Republican from N. Carolina has already read the tea-leaves or writing on the wall, as it were; and decided to break ranks (yesterday) w/ his fearless leader-Bush & his sychophants.
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Dealing and trafficking goes hand in hand with consumption. Quote:
Perhaps it's just "a few bad apples", eh ? |
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Oh god...you have got to be kidding me...tell me something, did the aliens provide you with this information? or better yet is the US Military somehow using the LochNess Monster to transport the drugs?
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Don't be a pillock like your friend Flappy. All that stuff is there for you to read in the Newspapers. Newsflash for you buddy : Soldiers are not angels, US servicemen are no exception. Sorry if that comes as a shock to you. The crash in supply when the Taleban were in charge of Afghanistan is also well documented, a UK police report even confirmed it on the basis of seizures. Furthermore the surge in supply since the US took over Afghanistan has also been well documented and has also been confirmed by the UK police on the basis of seizures. |
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Far more alarming is the list of wounded. This number hovers around some 7000 or more. We often dismiss the term "wounded" as irrelevant but "wounded" means some poor guy has to go through his life without legs, arms, or badly disfigured. So, in a way I have to admire people who went to Iraq believing it was right for them to do so (on the evidence presented to them) but I believe Bush and Rumsfeld are responsible for putting these people at risk for their damned oil.
Coupled with this you have soldiers who suffered psychological trauma and have problems living their lives without feeling depressed or traumatised. Kerry criticized this whole idea of putting troops on the ground and Clinton would never have done it. But the irony here is Madonna was right to have done that video American life that featured people being maimed and wounded (but she backed out releasing it at the outbreak of war). Quote:
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There's something damned weird as well. Caligula was a great speech maker and had artistic talents, Hitler wrote a book, Stalin studied Marx and Engels but Bush????
He has trouble stringing a coherent phrase together. Quote:
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"My answer is bring them on."—On Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003undefined
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Naw, that's no use at all Flappy, unless you believe that drugs are transported by flying saucer. Last time I checked there weren't any reports of Policemen searching for drugs in UFOs at border crossings. Only a pillock like you, Flaps, would try to duck the issue by making such a bold leap of fantasy. ![]() |
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If I'm recalling correctly, the only Senator
who has a son or daughter serving in the military is Sen. Joe Biden, a Democrat. oh here's another one Sen Tim Johnson's (Democrat) son served in Iraq in 2003. |
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1,700+ troops dead.
The injury list for US soldiers also increases. Walter Reed hospital last year - the Cheif Medical officer there told Newsnight that 8,000 troops (and not 3,000 troops as stated by the Pentagon) had been admitted since March 2003. The 8,000 statistic was given in an interview by the CMO in June 2004. A year ago. Would it be fair to suggest that this figure has doubled in the last 12 months ? |
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Do you know if the pentagon is releasing the actual number of purple hearts it's awarding?
If I'm remembering correctly, a few months before the election, say spring of '04, the pentagon was refusing to say. I did see a news report at that time quoting a Military type to the effect that there had been 12,000 medical evac's. Right about that time the pentagon started a different counting method and seemingly 'lost' a significant number of WIA's. Of course the media never picked up on it. |
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I recall that too. Strange. The figures at the Whitehouse press-conferences didn't seem to add up at all, not for the first time of course. It's hard to keep up with the BS that the Whitehouse punts, I think this is why people are focussing on a subset of issues. You only have to look at Flappy to see that the Whitehouse's BS campaign is working. I bet that Flappy thinks it's great that his pals returning from the front in pieces are swept under the carpet. |
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CMO at Walter Reed in mid-2004 was asked about the 3,000 Pentagon injured
figure. The CMO said that the Pentagon based their number on the basis of "serious" injuries. What, in the CMO's opinions, did the Pentagon consider serious ? According to the CMO, the Pentagon's definition of serious injury was injuries like being a quadraplegic as a result of action in Iraq. The CMO said that there was no account of injuries such as broken legs/arms in the Pentagon numbers The CMO also said that there was no account of psychological breakdowns suffered by soldiers in the Pentagon numbers. In other words only injuries deemed "serious" are catalogued in the injury list. The CMO said that every single admission to Walter Reed to June 2004 is documented and the running total to June 2004 = 8,000. When asked why he thought there was such a disparity between the Pentagon figure of 3,000 injured and WR number of 8,000 injured- the CMO suggested that the Pentagon and the US authorities were interested in minimising the number to reduce "benefit payments to it's injured soldiers" and "to minimise the real extent of injuries and the threat of injury while serving in Iraq". |
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