Zabriskie is a disgrace to Americans in the international peleton

Originally Posted by musette

Each poster's words (and, in your case, inappropriate language) speak to who the poster is, more than who the people the poster is trying to target are.

You know your proposition that started this thread got completely destroyed by my quotes, and you are trying (obviously unsuccessfully) to attack me in sulking about how badly you have been out-gunned in arguments in this thread.

It should be noted that, not only is sexual orientation not an appropriate way to attack a person (since everybody is entitled to one's sexual orientation, which is entirely legitimate), but also you are soooo wrong. Everybody uses smiley faces. But also, I am a woman and you were assuming (wrongly, obviously) I was a man. Hah! Second argument of yours badly defeated in this thread.

Originally Posted by Banesto2007

Go Away woman, know your role. A real woman wouldnt pretend to be a man instead of shopping and doing what real women do. How can you speak about which you no nothing about. I figured you were some lowly cat racer or fan. You need to realize that everything you read about the sport is Anglocentric, thats why youre clueless. Youre the one who should "know better". That was such a strange statement that you made saying "you(I) should know better than to question my(your) quote". Sorry that you have penis envy or whatever.

Originally Posted by Lonnie Utah

...but unless you're a member of CSC, I don't really see what your complaining about.

Originally Posted by Banesto2007

Go Away woman, know your role.

Originally Posted by Banesto2007

. Enough said. Its a Latin sport with Latin ethics. Yall are outsiders. s

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LIEGE-B-L (which might as well be French), THE SPORT IS IN FRANCE, ITALY, AND SPAIN.

Originally Posted by Banesto2007

Youre smug and gay with all of your little smiley faces. You dont understand on-the-road tactics and I shouldnt have place any importance on quoted sources. An Anglo correspondant for an Anglo publication/site, regarding an Anglo rider on an Anglo team. Enough said. Its a Latin sport with Latin ethics. Yall are outsiders. This isnt gay ass, ball busting Paris Roubaix where everyone rides for themselves, destroying their nuts over cobbles. Ok , first of all CSC is overrated. Riis isnt a great strategist, he just had a flukish plan to change tempos on Indurain in the mountains to win in 1996. He took his earnings and secured a sponsor. If Basso's objective was to do well at the Giro, how does Zabriskie expending his reserves on a selfish ITT effort benefit him. Ill repeat again the fact that Riis bitched them all out for losing contact with Basso when he lost :30 on stage 3 and it wasnt even mountainous. Its easy to win an ITT when everyone else is much more tired because they have a job to do on all the other stages. You quoted Zabriskie ..."I WANTED TO WIN TODAY" and from your propaganda filled sources thats all that can be verified. IF Riis wanted him to try and win , thats a horrible tactic because Basso doesnt need the 150th riders' time splits.... (Dave) , when he himself is 6th from last to go. Zabriskie should have conserved for the race itself. Now, Danielson and Zabriskie both are EXTREMELY limited as cyclists. Neither have any muscle mass and the only reason Danielson has shown potential is because hes lived for years at altitude in Durango, CO. and raced against Crit. oriented riders who are only good at riding for an hour or two . He cant go longer than 7-8 days , hes just flat out not an athlete. Zabriskie is 5'11 150 , hell never do well in the tour because he cannot climb with that undersized frame. I wouldnt even consider him to be a good TTT specialist because at his waifish size he doesnt provide much of a draft unless hes got a small guy behind him, for Basso hes comporable but they wont be a good TTT team even with Voigt, Julich. Basso is not even a great athlete even without mentioning the fact that he has no intensity. Fassa Non-Tendered him because he was overrated. Basically the amateurish Riis has been signing everyone elses garbage. Hamilton,Julich,Basso,Voigt Jaksche,Sastre. Theyve dominated Paris-Nice, Tour Med, Crit Int., and Romandie but that is their niche. Bassos podium was a fluke because Jan caught a virus from his kid, and because everyone dropped out. Ullrich, Vino, Lance, Ekimov, Popo, Azevedo, Rubiera, Savoldelli, Cioni, Flecha, Pettachi, Pozzato, Velo, Brusegin , Cancellara , Kirchen , Frigo. Even Sevilla knows what his role is. All of those guys are real riders so that is why Zabriskie, Julich,Hamilton,Landis,Danielson and Basso were all disposed of by those teams. Botero will do better than Landis in July for the Phonak squad. Americans are overrated because they only ride for themselves. They all should go to CSC. Then they can go win all the races in March when its snowing out. Their victories in Romandie were with a blood doping Hamilton.

OH yeah, Tour of Georgia is a gay EXHIBITION race for Americans. Its not even a real race. Why do you think CSC always tries to do well there with Voigt last year and Julich, and Vandborg this year. There werent even time bonuses going into the last day when Danielson only had a 0:04 second lead against Lance,Landis,Julich,Levi, who could all care less about the race. Lance won last year without even trying. Tour of California is going to be a joke too. The only races that matter are
THE TOURS OF FRANCE, SPAIN, ITALY, PARIS-NICE, DAUPHINE-L, LIEGE-B-L, CATALUNYA, PAIS VASCO, VALENCIA, MURCIA, SAN SEBASTIAN, WORLDS, LOMBARDY(unless you dont like racing in October).

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LIEGE-B-L (which might as well be French), THE SPORT IS IN FRANCE, ITALY, AND SPAIN.

3 Days of De Panne, 4 Days of Dunkirk, Flanders, Roubaix, Fleche Wallone, Amstel, KBK, Camembert, all those others are not meaningful. The races in Switzerland are not great thats why Jan screws up by racing there and Tour of Germany and Italian Criteriums instead of DAUHPINE. At least he did CATALUNYA but he should have tried to win it. CSC is going to implode in Du Tour not DE Tour.

Originally Posted by MJtje

I see youre banned.........

Originally Posted by EoinC

Banned!!! How am I going to continue with my research into prehistoric beings living in a modern world if Banesto2007 isn't available for me to collect data on? I call on Noam Chomsky to have B'07 released in order that the thinking processes of an ancient troglodyte may be further examined.

Originally Posted by wolfix

............. Lance Armstrong , Greatest Tour de France rider ever.{non-Latin } .............

Originally Posted by mitosis

I like the way you slipped that statement in. When was this decided?