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Old 28-05.-2005, 11:20 AM   #46
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[QUOTE=ghostpedal]these people are not rational. There is nothing anyone could say or do that would appease these dangerous whackos. It is time for some people to wake up and realize the world has some evil people in it that must be stopped.QUOTE]

Enough about the christian right, already. What about the islamic extremist's
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Old 28-05.-2005, 11:23 AM   #47
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Good one [If I understood it correctly]
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Old 28-05.-2005, 11:33 AM   #48
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These are the type of people who flew aircraft into the WTC, and that was not a military target, it was wrong. I don't care how they see the kidnapping and beheading of people, it's wrong.

Striking at the "heart" of a countries economic power is not a military objective I contend the opposite. Upsetting a nations economy (Wall St./communications/infrastructure) ranks in the "top 5", of primary debilitating military objectives as far as I'm concerned & I have had some instruction in this arena. As far as beheading goes, where would you place "water-boarding" on the list of unacceptable practices Amnesty Int'l just released their yearly study of country's practicing torture & guess who was on it The U.S. The condoning of such practices came all the way from the top-Gonzales/Bush/et al. I await the supbeona's w/ glee The only thing is, if bush were removed, which right wing sychophant would take his place
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John Conyers is the ranking democrat on the House Judiciary Committee. He's taking seriously a request by several groups (including Constitutional litigators) to launch a formal investigation into Bush's deceit about the reasons for war. The Downing Street Memo figures highly in the evidence.

As I said, at this point it's just one step beyond coffee table talk, but it's the first step in the direction of impeachment. The result of this step would be an inquiry to whether sufficient grounds exist to impeach. I'm sure if anything comes of it you'll see it in the news.

BTW, "impeach bush" brings up some interesting sites on a Google search. Mostly whackos but a few well-organized under-funded groups too.

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Here's the avatar I'd like to use but its bigger than 80X80

hey man! thats an easy fix. just open it with windows "paint" then go to "image" on the menu bar, then go to "stretch/skew"

Cut it down using small increments until it's the rite size.
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HEY MC!!! I "doctored" the avatar u wanted so that it fits & its attached to this post.





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HEY MC!!! I "doctored" the avatar u wanted so that it fits & its attached to this post. You're welcome.

You are the "clever" one. Graphics are relatively new to me. Although, as you know, I have no trouble uploading them. I will save it for later use. I wanted to put it up on mtb'r .com. Here's a good two .
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Animated GIF avatars are cool, but sadly they cannot be resized. I must act! Time to break out the old programming books, looks like.
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How do you know this Lim?...Do you have first hand knowledge. Or are you basing this on all of the biased media reports?

You know, no one seemed to have a problem when the UN asked the Us to intervine in Bosnia and Mogadishu(spelling). It is so funny how when some ruthless dictator pops up on your side of the world, which seems to happen quite frequently, No other European nation wants to get their hands dirty. It is always the US that is called in. I know what it is...This gives you people the chance to pick and choose which conflict you are going to support based upon how it is handled. Give me a f***ing break


How do I know that the US are not wanted in Iraq.

I tell you.
I have a work collegue from Iraq - Haidar is his name.
Haidar's family suffered under SH and Haidar managed to get out of Iraq 8 years.

What Haidar told me about living under the SH regime would make your skin crawl.
Haidar is a Shi'ite Muslim. The Shi'ite population suffered under SH. Haidar's afther was imprisoned and died under the SH regime. Haidar also told me of the rape parties that took place - where Sunni/SH regime people would go through Shi'ite areas and grab Shi'ite women and drag them away to be raped. This happened to two of Haidar's sisters.
So I think Haidars opinion when he says that his family tell him that life under SH was better than it now is in Iraq is insightful. Haidar's family live in Southern Iraq. Southern Iraq is not, thankfully, under the same lawlessness
as Baghdad, Fallujah, Mosul. I am prepared to accept what Haidar says is true. He is a good employee, trustworthy and hardworking and I believe him to be an honest bloke.


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You know, no one seemed to have a problem when the UN asked the Us to intervine in Bosnia and Mogadishu(spelling). It is so funny how when some ruthless dictator pops up on your side of the world,


First of all, the UN Security council voted to go in to Bosnia.
There was a consensus to go in to Bosnia. Britain/France/Russia/Chine all agreed to going in to Bosnia.

By the way Somalia isn't close to Ireland - Florida is closer.
Bosnia is proximate to my country - but it's ver 5 hours flight time away -
approximately the same disatnce as New York is from here.
Work on your geography.

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No other European nation wants to get their hands dirty.

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No European country wants to get it's hands dirty ?
Italian/French/Spanish/Portugese/british/Irish/Dutch/Belgian/Polish/Czech's
all have troops serving with the UN at various locations throughout the world.
I suppose they don't want to get their hands dirty eh ?

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It is always the US that is called in. I know what it is...This gives you people the chance to pick and choose which conflict you are going to support based upon how it is handled. Give me a f***ing break


The US were not called in to Iraq !

The US acted unilaterally and invaded another sovereign country which posed no threat to the USA/it's people.
That is the fact of the matter.

So, yeah gives us all a break why dont you and stop trying to justify what cannot be justified.
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Funny thing is, only a FOOL would believe that ol' Saddam WASN'T making plans to restock his toybox.


Maybe that should read "only a fool would believe that SH had WMD in his toybox".

Have you or your goverment got proof that SH had WMD ?
As I recall even your own Sec of State Colin Powell accets that no WMD was ever there.

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That's why he was so vehement in petitioning Chirac and Schroeder to rescind the UN sanctions. He was biding his time for when "normality" in the world court would take him out from under the microscope.



Petitioning countries to drop sanctions is not a crime.

Again you speculate as to SH's intentions, like your country did in the run up to March 20th 2003.
That's why the rest of the world now distrusts US foreign policy because it bases it's policy on speculation, and not on corroborated, verifiable information.



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And just WHAT do you think would become of Iraq when the Uday/Qusay tagteam of torture inevitably came to town???


They were as despicable as their father.
But that doesn't give the USA the right to invade another country that posed NO threat to it or it's people.

If the USA were consistent in it's foreign policy about removing despicable dictators, it would have to invade well over 50 countries.
But then those 50 countries don't all have massive oil reserves.
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But then those 50 countries don't all have massive oil reserves.


No... those other 50 countries didn't sign a surrender agreement with the US 14 years ago that they flouted for 10 years.

Legally speaking, this was just an extension of the Gulf War.
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No... those other 50 countries didn't sign a surrender agreement with the US 14 years ago that they flouted for 10 years.


Quantify what you mean by Flouted. AFAICT his government co-operated to an extraordinary degree, as evidenced by the fact that there were zero WMDs left. The oil deals amounted to pilfering by comparison to the money made by folks like Bayoil and those oil-deals were conducted with the full fore-knowledge, complicity and approval by the US authorities.

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Legally speaking, this was just an extension of the Gulf War.


Twaddle.

The people who wanted to invade Iraq say it was Legal, aka Bush + Blair, whereas the experts and authorities of International Law, such as Kofi Annan say it is Illegal. I go with the latter stance because it is closer in spirit to the Nuremburg principles, and they carry considerable moral weight because they were drafted on the back of a huge and unnecessary war that claimed *millions* of lives.

To be blunt about it, I don't see much material difference between the Soviet invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and the current setup. The government has no control over the major military forces within it's borders and it's very existance is predicated on the occupation. Even worse the occupation forces are completely unaccountable to the people of the occupied country and appear to be behaving accordingly.

The same applies to Iraq.
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whereas the experts and authorities of International Law, such as Kofi Annan


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