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Old 18-05.-2005, 02:11 AM   #1
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Bruce Kirkland writes in the Toronto Sun: "Star Wars is a wakeup call to Americans about the erosion of democratic freedoms under George W. Bush, filmmaker George Lucas said yesterday.
"Revenge of the Sith," it turns out, can also be seen as a cautionary tale for our time -- a blistering critique of the war in Iraq, a reminder of how democracies can give up their freedoms too easily, and an admonition about the seduction of good people by absolute power.

" 'I didn't think it was going to get quite this close,' he said of the parallels between the Nixon era and the current Bush presidency, which has been sacrificing freedoms in the interests of national security. 'It is just one of those re-occurring things. I hope this doesn't come true in our country. Maybe the film will awaken people to the situation of how dangerous it is.' "

the White House chief political strategist (Sith Lord Rove) has had quite the hand in the formation of Justice Priscilla R. Owen of the Texas Supreme Court, one of the Bush nominees to a federal appeals court at the center of the partisan battle in the Senate over changing the filibuster rules.

Lewis cites "three crucial moments in her judicial career in which she seemed to have been guided by the hand of Karl Rove."

For instance, Owen was "a respected but little-known lawyer in Houston in 1994 when she was first elected to the State Supreme Court with Mr. Rove's support and tutelage."

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Yes, this is true. The war on terror reminds me of the Stalinist war against wreckers, Trotskyists and capitalists. It projected fear into the public mind and then removed freedoms in order to counter the imagined fear.


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Bruce Kirkland writes in the Toronto Sun: "Star Wars is a wakeup call to Americans about the erosion of democratic freedoms under George W. Bush, filmmaker George Lucas said yesterday.
"Revenge of the Sith," it turns out, can also be seen as a cautionary tale for our time -- a blistering critique of the war in Iraq, a reminder of how democracies can give up their freedoms too easily, and an admonition about the seduction of good people by absolute power.

" 'I didn't think it was going to get quite this close,' he said of the parallels between the Nixon era and the current Bush presidency, which has been sacrificing freedoms in the interests of national security. 'It is just one of those re-occurring things. I hope this doesn't come true in our country. Maybe the film will awaken people to the situation of how dangerous it is.' "

the White House chief political strategist (Sith Lord Rove) has had quite the hand in the formation of Justice Priscilla R. Owen of the Texas Supreme Court, one of the Bush nominees to a federal appeals court at the center of the partisan battle in the Senate over changing the filibuster rules.

Lewis cites "three crucial moments in her judicial career in which she seemed to have been guided by the hand of Karl Rove."

For instance, Owen was "a respected but little-known lawyer in Houston in 1994 when she was first elected to the State Supreme Court with Mr. Rove's support and tutelage."

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Hey man!!! could've messaged me if the hiatus is up! I had to stop looking at cycling forums, as I had to put forth great effort to stop myself from posting.
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Hey mc... whats your avatar-dog holding? Ive narrowed it down to 4 potential candidates... being "bomb" and "crack pipe" and "discolored meth lightbulb" and "plain old boring tobacco pipe"
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Hey man!!! could've messaged me if the hiatus is up! I had to stop looking at cycling forums, as I had to put forth great effort to stop myself from posting.
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Wassup, dog (with a bomb)?

My apologies. I'm back in the saddle again. Keep an eye out for some more of my highly radioactive post's. The soap-box lives on. Keep up the good fight!!! Now I',m going to have some warm milk & go to bed
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Hey mc... whats your avatar-dog holding? Ive narrowed it down to 4 potential candidates... being "bomb" and "crack pipe" and "discolored meth lightbulb" and "plain old boring tobacco pipe"

It's a "metaphor" for all of the things I have sparked in the past It aint' terbacco thats for sure
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I haven't seen the movie, nor will I. George Lucas is a sell out and the fact the there is 'anti- Bush' stuff in the movie is just pathetic.

I guess when the plot and acting of his horrible movie(s) is so unbearable, he has to resort to weak tactics making fun of the president.

I love how politics are starting to engulf every aspect of life

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I haven't seen the movie, nor will I. George Lucas is a sell out and the fact the there is 'anti- Bush' stuff in the movie is just pathetic.

I guess when the plot and acting of his horrible movie(s) is so unbearable, he has to resort to weak tactics making fun of the president.

I love how politics are starting to engulf every aspect of life

(sarcasm)

One would think that a forum member w/ a beer, dressed in a jersey, for an avatar wouldn't be so uptight Political Satire must have a kernal of truth to have any impact & that is what Lucas's movie has. Are you one of the people who is in the gang of "Bush hasn't made any mistakes". (calculated or otherwise)
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I haven't seen the movie, nor will I. George Lucas is a sell out and the fact the there is 'anti- Bush' stuff in the movie is just pathetic.
Lucas is taking advantage of the FACT that the best way to talk to the American public is to do it through the movies. Americans in general do not understand the complexities of war or corruption of government. Last November proved that point. Lucas breaks it down into situations and scenarios that the public will understand (albeit subconciously)..into bite sized chunks of SciFi.

This has proven to work.
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Lucas is taking advantage of the FACT that the best way to talk to the American public is to do it through the movies. Americans in general do not understand the complexities of war or corruption of government. Last November proved that point. Lucas breaks it down into situations and scenarios that the public will understand (albeit subconciously)..into bite sized chunks of SciFi.

This has proven to work.

Precisely I don't need this readily available, info. "spoon-fed" to me. The Admin.'s transgressions were/are plain enough for 1/2 of the voting public to see & they cast their ballot's accordingly in the "nay" .
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Precisely I don't need this readily available, info. "spoon-fed" to me. The Admin.'s transgressions were/are plain enough for 1/2 of the voting public to see & they cast their ballot's accordingly in the "nay" .


But where were you when Clintoon was wagging the dog in Kosovo?
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But where were you when Clintoon was wagging the dog in Kosovo?

My retort to that is, quite simply, this-"When Clinton lied, nobody died ."
You cannot say that of your "Fearless Leader"
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