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11-05.-2005, 03:40 AM

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Bush is in Georgia today greeting the people of the revolution....he started his speech with the obligatory 'My fellow Merkins'..
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Did he say anything about "nookilla weapons"

11-05.-2005, 04:09 AM

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Did he say anything about "nookilla weapons"

Maybe Putin just misunderestimated Lyin' King's strategery?

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11-05.-2005, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wurm

But you're forgetting one small detail LM - that GWB's "re-election" in '04 was a farce, just as his selection by the Supreme Court was in '00. The majority of American voters actually did NOT vote for him, as evidenced by U.S. Rep. John Conyers' report to Congress, which has been entered into the official Congressional record.

As long as the Repubs'/cons hold the majority in Congress, there will be no justice.

I read somewhere that the USA Republican party say that Bush got 3m more votes than he did in 2000.
That appears to be an endorsement of his 2000-2004 policies.

I think the man is a retrobate but that doesn't hide the fact that more Americans decided to vote for him this time round.

Half of me sympathises with those who didn't vote for him - the other half of me says that those who voted for him deserve all the misery that his policies
will entail.

11-05.-2005, 07:24 AM

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Unfortunately, New Labour has been allowed to get away with something that simply ain't tolerable - lying to the nation. The people went out and voted Blair back into office, just as happened in the USA.
This is why Europe has a stronger democracy than we do over here. When Aznar lied to the Spanish over terrorism, he was sacked from office. The Spanish sent a message to say they disliked being lied to and they elected a totally new government.
When people voted Labour back in, they may have assumed the lies, arrogance and corruption would cease, once Blair had a bloody nose. I doubt this will happen. The Labour Party has had 7 years to get to grips with asylum immigration, bad class discipline and hospital queues.
Astoundingly, as a poke in the ribs to the public, Blair even reinstated David Blunkett - a man who made a total shambles of asylum and immigration and came up with the most repressive, anti-liberal, anti-democratic legislation ever seen since the days of Krushchev.
God help us is all I can say.

Was Blair re-elected because Gordon Brown bailed him out ?

11-05.-2005, 07:46 AM

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Leaving Blair aside for a moment or two, it seems to me that the Bush Administration is continuing its policy of trying to make inroads into Russian oil resources. It was laughable to hear a Republican calling for Russia to be thrown out of the G8 on the grounds of so-called movement away from "democracy".
So, I ask where lies the problem in Putin nationalising his oil reserves and reigning in the former new Russians who're in the habit of selling national assets in order to get rich quick?
Let's face it, Bush's cohorts are pulling a face because they don't have such an easy path for future lucrative oil deals. The plan has shifted to supporting a rift between Russia and Georgia or interfering in elections in the Ukraine. Are these people motivated by anything other than greed, which seems to displace a long term view to security and common sense?
I suppose it is highly probable that Russia will drift towards China and the Middle East and cold shoulder Bush but we shall see.

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Was Blair re-elected because Gordon Brown bailed him out ?

11-05.-2005, 12:32 PM

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I realise that you didn't vote for him, Dave.

I still find it very hard to understand, given all that has come to pass, that people would still re-elect him.

The rest of the world took it's lead from the result, on the basis that his policies enjoy widespread support in the USA and that the will of the people has been affirmed by his re-election.
You can see it in the financial markets, essentially the world markets have decided that economic policy of the USA for the next three years will only do more damage to your country's economy.

I have a lot of sympathy for people who have to live in a country run by Bush.

As Wurm has stated-"But you're forgetting one small detail LM - that GWB's "re-election" in '04 was a farce, just as his selection by the Supreme Court was in '00. The majority of American voters actually did NOT vote for him, as evidenced by U.S. Rep. John Conyers' report to Congress, which has been entered into the official Congressional record."
My veiw is that the Electoral College needs to be thoroughly reevaluated because candidates who lose the popular vote end up winning the election

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11-05.-2005, 12:39 PM

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I read the article too. Do you know who those 3M voter's were

They were the Evangelical's, courted by Rove, over the gay marriage non-issue (to rational minded folk) which transpired immediately prior to the election. Bush won w/ the slimmest of majority's (%) and, incidentally, his approval ratings are at an all time low. He currently can't pass any of his extreme, pending legislation, fortunately. Seems like a lame duck to me

just like Blair.

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