Things that piss me off about some Christians...

davidmc

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BassDave

I have some thoughts of the "somewhere between", but first I must say that for the longest time, I was a conservative Christian [perhaps a fundie], believing that way ever since I could remember [and I'm 36]. However, I [arguably] made the mistake of clicking on a link that I found on this board [not sure which thread it was] that took me to a site that caused me to rethink a lot of things. I'm sure some of you know the site. I saw very good arguments against a young earth, Noah's flood, as well as other things that caused the rethink.

I've come to a few conclusion that I [of course] cannot prove, but it is a possibility:

1. The 'world flood' is an alagory to show an aspect of God, that being one who abhors behavior labeled as sin. Came to this conclusion after the evidence against an actual world wide flood.

2. The creation story [and this is what ties in with the "somewhere between" statement] is a generalized, if not vague reference to God starting life on earth.

3. And most controversial, the 'acts of God' in the Bible, such as the many cities and people killed by the migrating Jews or elsewhere, were actually the following: The Jews destroyed a people group/city, they assumed then that it was the will of God, and that they were living righteously. If an invading force conquered the Jews, they assumed then that they were living in sin, and God was punishing them.

I have other conclusions, but I'll get to the creation part.

The title of 'Theistic Evolutionist' is what I think could be a good way to have the "somewhere between". In Genesis, it said that God created plants and animals 'of their own kind'. I take this to mean that God began life [however many millions/billions of years ago] in that God started the sequences of each type of animal and plant, such as the line of sparrows, and they learned to adapt to whatever environment they found themselves in [which is why there are many varieties of sparrows around the world]. Same for all varying species of plant or animal. The 'kind' was created, then that 'kind' microevolved. It solves the problem of macroevolution or a 'missing link' [unless it was a case where God decided to move a species in another direction].

This theory is [needless to say] not accepted in very many circles. Not the Christian, not the Atheist, but it is what I am beginning to think.

EoinC

I think that a "theory" does not have to be accepted in any circle for it to have some validity for you. A belief is exactly that...a belief. I am impressed that you give value to examining what you, as an individual, actually believe, and are not bound by what others instruct you to believe. Your belief may be in accordance with others, but you arrived there by your own path.
I believe that Man created / creates God/s in his own image and that is why there are the profusion of disparate images. I don't claim that one is right and another is wrong, only that the one that is 'right' for one being is not necessarily right for another.

jhuskey

I am impressed that you give value to examining what you, as an individual, actually believe, and are not bound by what others instruct you to believe. Your belief may be in accordance with others, but you arrived there by your own path.

That is what some call faith.

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Darjevon

I simply believe, or hope, that the energy that controls my body now will always have something to control, not necessarily in this universe and not necessarily human or animal, based on the fact that I cannot imagine being unable to move anything.

My new faith.

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davidmc

...Could it be.........SATAN (The "Church Lady" from SNL )

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

EoinC

Aaah! Moving towards existentialism. In an approximate recollection of Monty Python's Drunk Philosophers song:

Rene Descarte was a drunken fart - "I drink therefore I am".

Darjevon

Hmmm... Is my philosophy relatively new? I must be off to get the patent. After all, a religion with no "hell" one could end up in might draw in enough religious gamblers to rival the big C. Who knows?

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davidmc

You may want to wait until all of the hoopla surrounding cruise & scientology trails off. Otherwise your msg. will be drowned out

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

Darjevon

dang nabbit, son of a monkey-spank! I forgot to take a photo. O well...

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bbnaz

if you should look at this response..............how about the Muslim fundamentalists/extremists that want your sorry ass DEAD. Yep, you read that right, DEAD so you keep babbling about who you hate and Christians (appropriately capitalized) and recognize that I am not defending thos whack right wing folks, bu just that you are seriously deluded.

wolfix

I ride a Trek.

Darjevon

I think the Muslims are planning an attack, so I guess I better stock up on pistols, rifles, and kevlar vests for when the Moslem Church mobilizes against my army of "Degenerates."

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My "hitlist" is as follows.

1. My mailman
2. George Bush
3. Mike Tyson
4. Condoleeza Rice
5. Zapper

Darjevon

I really see no reason why muslims would want me dead; I have respect for them and their culture, I am not an american citizen, and I use NO gasoline whatsoever.

I'm afraid my ass has not quite reached the "sorry" stage.

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My "hitlist" is as follows.

1. My mailman
2. George Bush
3. Mike Tyson
4. Condoleeza Rice
5. Zapper