Things that piss me off about some Christians...

davidmc

I'm looking at "Article VI" of the Constitution right now:

"Article. VI.

Clause 3: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. "

'nuff said

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

jaguar75

Wow...we agree on something...

The right person for the right job...enough said.

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"Perseverance is more prevailing than violence; and many things which cannot be overcome when they are together, yield themselves up when taken little by little" - Plutarch (46 AD - 120 AD)

Darjevon

tis' a miracle... this calls for some "emoticon graffiti"

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Darjevon

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My "hitlist" is as follows.

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2. George Bush
3. Mike Tyson
4. Condoleeza Rice
5. Zapper

davidmc

Nice one Most appropriate to the occassion

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

Darjevon

hey mc, can we celebrate your 2000 post mark (a little late) with some emoticon graffiti?

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davidmc

Absatively

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

Darjevon

kool man!

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crithater

Well if my choice is to have a conversation with God or jim morrison, I will take God everytime. As a matter of fact I have conversations with him everyday....I believe that "this guy" did all of those things and more.....You have every right to not believe but you don't have the right to make light of my beliefs....

The ever God loving Mr. Crit......

Darjevon

In that case, I'll make fun of them

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Darjevon

Im with karl marx; religion is definitely the opiate of the masses.



I was forced to attend a school where I was one of fourteen whites. There were 200something asians, 300something mexicans, and 500 blacks.



I would not have seen this as a problem, however the school was... ghetto.



This was in my seventh grade year. I came from a place where the school had an "optional\gifted" program where a select few students were siphoned off and kept completely isolated from those who could not meet 125 on the iq test.



Then I came to a school where a half-page paper with no polysyllabic words was acceptable for a term research project. YUCK!



My best 7th grade teacher would not let me read "Don Quixote" for a term report; she instead made me pick from a limited selection of books where the most advanced available was Roald Dahl's The Twits. Thus, I promptly had myself bumped into 8th grade, where at least complete simple sentences were required in writing.



This was not the worst of the school, however, as I soon discovered. The other children, the majority of which were black, were “Ghetto”. The girls had what they called “attitudes”; they would scream at teachers, etc. The boys were pure evil, I believe. They used to make daily attempts to smuggle buck knives into school, refer to all other blacks and mexicans as “that nigger” and whites as “cuz.” I cleverly made myself a target for hate on my first day by (A) being white, and (B) responding “no” to question “hey cuz, you got a religion?”



The other significant problem was the school philosophy of “a diverse education.”



When I first arrived, the entire class groaned and angrily screamed “we don’t need no more whites up in here” They hated me for this, and made many attempts to physically thrust me from the classroom. Worse yet, I started school sitting at a table with an iranian, 2 other whites, and the only black in the school who had respect for whites. He was not ghetto, and quite frankly I think he may have meen on of the best human beings I have ever known. But the teacher, throwing diversity at me, said “I want you to move to this table, for more diversity.” Sitting at the table where I was moved were 4 blacks with great hatred for my white self. So what does diversity mean again?



These people, almost every last one of the bastards, believed that their job was basketball. There are more black brain surgeons than basketball players, and even in that school there were almost enough blacks to fill the entire nba. So what’s the probablility that these people will make it? They would even go so far as to argue against working in class with statements like this one: “I’ve got a whole career in basketball ahead of me”



The majority of them wanted me, a white agnostic “fool”, dead.



Worse. They even talked about racism, loudly and aggressively. Calling me a racist when their initial reaction to me was “we don’t need no more whites up in here.” They did this constantly… and this was only pouring gasoline on the fire in my mind.



Fuck them. Kill them all. I hated the blacks, and I hated the mexicans and whites and asians who bought in on this culture with an even greater vengeance. All I wanted at that time was for something to purge their corrupt selves from this existence.



Now I look back on these bastards, my hate for the ghetto stronger than ever, my temple pulsating with rage, and realize that they had no hope other than the very slim chance that they would go pro with basketball… and they damn well knew it. Thus, they turned to a drug.



This “drug” is taken through the eyes and ears, and it remains with you forever.



It is addictive after just a few hits.



It is a hallucinogen, an opiate, and a stimulant.



It drives them, and more. It drives the majority of our society.



It is… blind, uneducated christianity.



Now would you, most of you educated, call me a racist?

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My "hitlist" is as follows.

1. My mailman
2. George Bush
3. Mike Tyson
4. Condoleeza Rice
5. Zapper

davidmc

I knew you were posessing of an inordinate amt. of intelligence the 1st time I read one of you're post's. Now, my initial asessment has been validated . You seem to have been through hell. I have more respect for you after reading this post. See my sig. for my view & Article VI of the Constitution barring religious "litmus" test's for office. One would'nt guess this LAW by observing the christian, evangelical crusade going on within our society w/ the "flames" being fanned by Bush at Herr Rove's consul (Judge's/Schiavo) It's a disgrace

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

EoinC

My dua sen...
There are as many paths as there are people (and probably small furry animals as well). This is why (some of) the governing bodies of the major organised monotheistic and polytheistic religions devote so much time and effort into reiterating the 'correct' path, both to believers and to gentiles / heathans / etc. The schisms that have happened as long as there have been collective views on theological matters, seem to be pretty natural when you are telling people who see the world with different ideas, what they should believe.
I have lived and worked in many places in this world, including places regarded as hotbeds of fundamentalism. The problem is generally not with people's beliefs, it is when they try to force those beliefs upon others.
This applies universally across the board and appears as an enigma to a 'free-thinker' - How can you force a belief? It can be done in many ways, but they all are based on a form of control, no matter how subtle that may be. I have seen incredible manipulation by missionary groups in the Highlands of Papua New Guinea, absolutely crushing the pre-existing cultural identity and means of independent survival of an indigenous people. Balanced against this, I have also seen missionary groups near the same area playing a truly supportive role that would be difficult to fault.
Whilst I believe what I believe, and I believe that it is right for me, I do not expect it to be right for anyone else in the world (including small furry animals), as it is merely my interpretation of the universe as I see it, using the tools and information at my disposal. I, personally, don't require a group of other people to back me up in my beliefs in order to establish that they are correct. I can understand how groups of people with similar beliefs find comfort in their commonality of thought and the structure that this can build, but I suspect that their will still be differences in each of there interpretations of what the universe is and how it functions.
Every morning, as I drive in to work, there is a programme on the radio where a man (presumably a cleric) elucidates in extremely well-spoken English on the 'correct' interpretations of aspects of the Qu'ran and Islamic practices. I am not a Muslim, but find it interesting to hear how detailed the 'authorised' interpretations are. Most of what I hear is really the basis for what I might call good general social conduct, but it still puzzles me that I, as a listener, should need to be told what I should inherently believe. There is nothing forceful in the presentation, but I find it interesting that organised religions need...organising..., incase one person's interpretation should differ from another.
Karl Marx's discourse is an excellent observation, especially if you take it that 'opiates' do have a role to play. I think it is a very fascinating part of the human makeup, that we need this void to be filled - even the atheist believing that he / she does not believe shows that there is a large part of our world view that is not universally pre-determined and our minds are open to mold our individual interpretations / beliefs.
That must be fully 2 cents worth...

davidmc

I believe this also applies to Professional sport's in that the observer is overcome w/ fascination thus mollifying any concern about what's going on in our gov't.

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )