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28-04.-2005, 11:34 PM
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I already blamed David for starting us down this dumb path (bad dog! bad dog!). Just don't forget that what you're criticizing, C.Ryder, is American conservatism throughout history.
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28-04.-2005, 11:35 PM
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Yeah, not my style. I haven't had coffee yet. I did make another post about judicial nominees a few back, if you'd like to get back to that subject.
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28-04.-2005, 11:40 PM
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Not at all. I'm critizing someone trying to play politics without looking at the facts. Conservatism is what keeps liberalism from going over the cliff. Liberalism is what pulls conservatism to moderate change. |
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28-04.-2005, 11:47 PM
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A fact which can, admittedly, modify the Democratic-control and confirmation figures to look less imbalanced; good catch. What remains to be clarified is what's uniquely outrageous about Democratic efforts to block 10 judicial nominees in light of Republican behavior and motivation in the same arena throughout the Clinton administration.
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29-04.-2005, 01:00 AM
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Circuit Court Nominees/Confirmations (as of October 2004): First term, Reagan: 39/33 --- 85% Second term, Reagan: 59/50 --- 85% G.H.W.Bush: 54/24 --- 78% First term, Clinton: 42/30 --- 71% Second term, Clinton: 64/35 --- 55% To date, G.W.Bush: 52/35 -- 67%
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29-04.-2005, 01:03 AM
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District Court Nominees/Confirmations (as of October 2004):
First term, Reagan: 145/130 --- 90% Second term, Reagan: 179/1620 --- 91% G.H.W.Bush: 196/150 --- 76% First term, Clinton: 204/170 --- 83% Second term, Clinton: 178/137 --- 77% To date, G.W.Bush: 178/166 -- 93%
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29-04.-2005, 01:21 AM
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Between the Circuit Court nominee numbers, the District Court nominee numbers, the total numbers of nominated and confirmed prospects, and the numbers of nominated prospects blocked through delay, filibuster, denial of vote or other arguably obstructionist means, there is nothing uniquely inappropriate about Democratic behavior since G.W. Bush took office. Republican claims to the contrary, and the suggestion that Democratic misbehavior has forced an urgent crisis of obstructionist conduct, is cleverly misleading politicking, nothing more.
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29-04.-2005, 02:34 AM
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Ok, numbers quiz. How many of George W. Bush's judicial nominees have been rejected?
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29-04.-2005, 04:04 AM
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No, for the sake of consistency across administrations, I mean rejected, or blocked. Filibustering has simply been adopted as the Democrat's only viable means of achieving a rejection in current hearings. The number is.... Quote:
This is true. So long as we're talking appropriateness of action, though, you might want to remind our readers how Republicans--even some leading the current charge--made failed attempts at filibustering Democratic nominees on several occasions, at least one quite recent.
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29-04.-2005, 04:36 AM
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To clarify the lingo of the day: when I reference "rejections," I'm speaking in terms of rejecting the initial nomination, or denying the prospect a vote. I'm not using "rejection" to describe a failing confirmation.
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