Do you have to use perfromance enhancers to be a pro?

House

He was busted and I, personally, think he did EPO, but his autopsy proves that he did not use it long-term and it was not the cause of his death, but some people won't let that stop them in their obsession.

Dead Star

he's right y'know.

Mansmind

Yeah, I suspect he is personally.

I also think that someone is innocent till proven guilty. Hamilton got caught, and he's undeniably guilty as far as I'm concerned. Lance hasn't been caught (if indeed he dopes) and until he is, I'm not going to condemn him for it. I've been the victim of circumstance too many times throughout my life to make someone else the victum of it.

I also think that just about anything can be accomplished with hard work and desire, and I think it's short-sighted for any of us to make the statement "to be pro you have to dope". The fact is, we don't KNOW that's true. Theories and circumstantial evidence are just what they are..not necessarily fact.

Is it possible? CERTAINLY Is it likely? PERHAPS Is it known for an absolute fact? NO WAY

snyper0311

He's not even close to right! He's scewing the results in favor of his views. He claims that a pro biker dies every 2.07 months but yet NO, NONE, ZERO, NADA, causes of death listed on the death certificates of these pro's lists Steroids/EPO as a cause of direct death.

HE also claims, in his own words, " We cannot detect 90% of these drugs in athletes who presently have a pulse rate. (the undead)," yet the UCI conducts tests for the same drugs he claims caused the deaths of these riders. So, to me, that sound like a contradiction. Can we or can't we detect the use of drugs in professional athletes?

Right, I doubt it. Motivated, totally!

Brizza

Random tests already take place in Australia (and many other countries via WADA).
Both WADA and ASDA require that top cyclists inform them of their location 24/7 so that random tests can be carried out. If an athlete is not where he is supposed to be he receives a failure to comply notification. \\ASDA

Dead Star

Read Willy Voet's Breaking the chain

snyper0311

"The sheer volume and young ages of the dead is more than sufficient to draw some obvious conclusions, Pro-cycling & good health are NOT congruent!"

Read Flyers quote. What two words stand out the most? How about OBVIOUS CONCLUSIONS. What are they based off of? Where are the facts? I can provide you with enough information to have you conclude that second hand smoke had just as much to do with the deaths of these pro riders as did EPO/steroids. But, without facts, documented facts, it is just speculation.

Dead Star

Read Willy Voet's Breaking the chain

House

In that case read Jim Bouton's "Ball Four" and you will know that every baseball player who dies does so due to alcohol.

House

Thanks, once again, for proving how stupid you are.

House

Was that just the same old noise of a lonely man looking for attention?