Calling Out Flyer

House

You see what i am talking about, just further proof of everything I have said about Flyer.

House

I'll make a deal with you. You come up with concrete, admissable in a court proof that all of the peloton dopes and i will leave here forever, if not you do. I'll give you 24 hours. I'm betting you won't do it, just like you won't step up and take the challenge. You are flailing little man.

Your foundation isn't cracked, you are.

House

a) What "others"

b) should a take a page from your book and ask what a "coffession" is?

c) once again you can't step up, all you can do is keep squawking the same edited bits of information that fit your hate agenda.

d) are you going to keep either lying or simply not having any clue who has said what?

jcjordan

Again we ask where is your proof of this

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matteo moller

this is an awesome pissing contest.

Beastt

House, I'm not sure whether to commend you or pity you for trying. I spent months trying to suggest reason and logic to Flyer. It finally ended with him being the only one, on any of the 3 or 4 boards I frequent making it to my ignore list. He's still the only one. Do I hate Flyer? Hell, no! I don't even know him. But I do tend to hate what he stands for and that's the idea that anyone can be convicted or should be considered guilty based on suspicion.

Certainly there is reason to suspect Lance. There's reason to suspect every rider in pro-cycling. But I don't feel that because some dope and some have been caught that it's proper, correct or fair to automatically assume everyone is guilty or to assume anyone who hasn't been proven guilty to be guilty. They used to do that kind of thing where Kings ruled over the population. They still do in many dictatorial systems. I don't think we need to digress into that kind of system. Apparently Flyer wouldn't have a problem with it -- as long as he avoided being accused himself.

Assuming that because there is a lot of doping in cycling, that it automatically means that anyone winning and anyone riding is guilty makes about as much sense as the observation that sometimes it's the person pointing the finger who is only trying to remove suspicion from himself, and therefore, anyone displaying suspicion of another, must himself be guilty.

What Flyer has demonstrated here goes beyond a hatred of cheating and doping in particular. I don't think I've read a single post yet which supports doping and I sincerely hope I never do. What Flyer is illustrating is obssession along with what appears to be some kind of personal vendetta against Armstrong.

Is Armstrong doping? I don't know. I tend to feel he isn't. He's too high-profile to be able to blend in and stay undetected. But, there are techniques that make detection very difficult or completely impossible. So the possibility is always there. If he is, then he has more balls than brains because he could easily bow out now and hold a record that is sure to be maintained for at least 5-years, more likely decades. But instead, he's announced that he's going for seven.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and these forums are wonderful as a tool for expressing, sharing and comparing those opinions. But when people convince themselves that their opinions, unsubstantiated by proof, are equivalent to fact, then I don't have a problem with someone attempting to point out their error. And when that fails, perhaps it's not a terrible thing to call them out and slap them down.

wolfix

wolfix

Hell with tomorrows report ........ I just want to add that I have alleged inside sources for all these allegations of my alleged discovery of who Flyer "may" be ......... I will not name names for fear of losing my contacts...... I have the alleged trust of all these alleged people who let me know what I allegedly know , and I would not revel my alleged sources....... I am not even going to allege it , de-allege it , or re-allege it ..........

House

Wolfix, you are dead on, I was talking to a Euro pro who's wife I am sleeping with and he told me "Mt best friend's, sister's, boyfriend's, brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who say Jan's mother logging on as Flyer...I guess it's pretty serious!"