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Old 27-05.-2006, 02:52 AM   #76
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Hey everyone.

'fraid I'm a newbie, so apologies if my questions have missed the obvious.

Fergie, in your schedule (a large chunk of which I'm using, and have picked up a load of speed over the last 6 weeks - thanks!), you talk about reps of 6s max speed - is this a high cadence exercise with a moderate/low gear to develop leg speed, or should I be using a 'track' sized gear (eg 88 inches) to develop power?

Also, I don't have access to equipment/people (or money!) to test my VO2 max - is there any way I can use training levels based on heartrate or similar?

And does the 12 sets of 15s on, 15s off max VO2 actually mean a 6 minute training session (or am I being incredibly dumb)?

Would appreciate any help anyone can give me.
Cheers,
Sam.

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Hello Everyone

Here is my outline of training for a sprinter. Feel free to pick it to pieces. The most important thing is not so much what training a rider does but what effect it has on them and how they communicate this to you. The best results I had with a sprinter was one that I personally trained in the gym and was on hand for most of her track work. A lot of speed work was done on a windtrainer at the gym. Much the same as the success I had with a road rider building towards the World Road Champs where I didn't observe much of his training but we was in contact up to three times a day leading up to his departure for Europe.

For sprinters I follow a multi-tier approach as opposed to the more periodised approach I use for endurance. Everything is trained year round and it is the amounts that vary depending on what phase one is in.

This means medium term aerobic, short term aerobic, anaerobic capacity, alactic capacity, power and strength (both ATP system) are all included in the programme.

Based on the goal event and the main requirements (sprint = anaerobic capacity) one looks at the levels 2 up and 2 below the main requirement and trains all 5.

For a sprinter...

+2: ATP Strength and Power
+1: Alactic Capacity
Main: Anaerobic Capacity
-1: Short Term Endurance (around maxV02)
-2: Medium Term Endurance (around anaerobic threshold)

For a roadie it would look like...

+2: Anaerobic Capacity
+1: Short Term Endurance
Main: Medium Term Endurance
+1: Long Term Endurance (around aerobic threshold)
+2: Very Long Term Endurance (below aerobic threshold)

Note I still get roadies to do very short sprints of 6-10sec or two lamp posts start in the saddle in medium gear (53X19-17) as a type of weights on wheels workout.

Training is then based on each requirement and the volumes at each level is varied depending on the priority. It generally goes from endurance through to strength and power for sprinters. The easiest way is to take the time till the goal event and divide by 5.

Note I do things differently for roadies who spend as much time as possible in the long term endurance phase before a block at MT Endurance, a block at ST endurance and a 2 week block of Anaerobic capacity before a 2 week taper to the goal event. This is because 75% of road racing is done within the aerobic and anaerobic threshold and the more power they can produce and sustain at this level the less time they spend in the energy sapping anaerobic levels. Sprinters however need to train fast all year long.

Instead of the usual 7 day microcycle I have gone for a 14 day period. All training sessions have goals of either time or max lift achieved. If you can't get close to a PB then pack up. Also you hit a PB then pack up, reward yourself for hitting new targets!

Example schedules based on a masters level rider with 20 years in the sport, a good understanding of weight training and racing at Denton Park, Christchurch, New Zealand's regular racing on a Wednesday and Sunday from late October to early March.

Medium term endurance phase...

Mon: Rest Day
Tues: 3 X 5min @ anaerobic threshold
Wed: am. Lower Body Power ie Powercleans pm Track Racing
Thur: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 12 X 15ses on 15sec off at maxV02
Sat: 8 X 6 sec at max speed
Sun: am Lower Body Strength ie Deadlifts pm Track Racing
Mon: Rest Day
Tue: 3 X 5min @ anaerobic threshold
Wed: am Lower Body Power pm Track Racing
Thu: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 12 X 15sec on 15 sec off at max V02
Sat: 3 X 5 min @ anaerobic threshold
Sun: am Lower body Strength pm Track Racing

Short term endurance phase...

Mon: Rest Day
Tues: 12 X 15sec on 15sec off at max V02
Wed: am. Lower Body Power ie Snatch pm Track Racing
Thur: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 12 X 15ses on 15sec off at maxV02
Sat: 8 X 6 sec at max speed
Sun: am Lower Body Strength ie Squats pm Track Racing
Mon: Rest Day
Tue: 12 X 15sec on 15sec off at max V02
Wed: am Lower Body Power pm Track Racing
Thu: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 3 X 5min @ anaerobic threshold
Sat: 12 X 15sec on 15sec off at max V02
Sun: am Lower body Strength pm Track Racing

Anaerobic Capacity Phase

Mon: Rest Day
Tues: 5X20sec (or 250m) at high speed
Wed: am. Lower Body Power ie High volume plyos pm Track Racing
Thur: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 3 X 5min @ anaerobic threshold
Sat: 8 X 6 sec at max speed
Sun: am Lower Body Strength ie Leg press pm Track Racing
Mon: Rest Day
Tue: 5X20sec (or 250m) at high speed
Wed: am Lower Body Power pm Track Racing
Thu: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 8 X 6sec at max speed
Sat: 12 X 15sec on 15sec off at maxV02
Sun: am Lower body Strength pm Track Racing

Alactic Capacity Phase

Mon: Rest Day
Tues: 8 X 6 sec at max speed
Wed: am. Lower Body Power ie Low volume plyos pm Track Racing
Thur: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 5X20sec (or 250m) at high speed
Sat: 8 X 6 sec at max speed
Sun: am Lower Body Strength ie Split Squats pm Track Racing
Mon: Rest Day
Tue: 8 X 6 sec at max speed
Wed: am Lower Body Power pm Track Racing
Thu: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 8 X 6sec at max speed
Sat: 12 X 15sec on 15sec off at maxV02
Sun: am Lower body Strength pm Track Racing

Now is the time to use the bike to get you up to speed (ie 65-72kph) and then between turn 3 and 4 kick round the bike to the line. Can be done on windtrainer but on track is better to replicate the effort and handling required to kick off a wheel.

ATP Phase

Mon: Rest Day
Tues: 4 X 6 sec at max speed
Wed: am. Lower Body Power ie Low volume plyos with weights pm Track Racing
Thur: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 2X20sec (or 250m) at high speed
Sat: 4 X 6 sec at max speed
Sun: am Lower Body Strength ie One leg leg press pm Track Racing
Mon: Rest Day
Tue: 4 X 6 sec at max speed
Wed: am Lower Body Power pm Track Racing
Thu: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 4 X 6sec at max speed
Sat: 6 X 15sec on 15sec off at maxV02
Sun: am Lower body Strength pm Track Racing

This is the final lead up to goal event and is done once then in the final 14 days to the goal event changes to...

Mon: Rest Day
Tues: 2 X 6 sec at max speed
Wed: am. Lower Body Power ie Low volume plyos with weights pm Track Racing
Thur: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 20sec (or 250m) at high speed
Sat: 2 X 6 sec at max speed
Sun: am Lower Body Strength ie One leg leg press pm Track Racing
Mon: Rest Day
Tue: 2 X 6 sec at max speed
Wed: am Lower Body Power pm Track Racing
Thu: Rest Day
Fri: am. Upper body weights pm. 2 X 6sec at max speed
Sat: Goal Event
Sun: Goal Event

Very little aerobic training in the last two phases but before all anaerobic and alactic workouts one should do this to warm up...

-5-15 min at aerobic threshold
-Stretching
-1-5 min below aerobic threshold
-5 min at anaerobic threshold
-1-5 min below aerobic threshold
-1 min at max aerobic pace
-2-10 min below aerobic threshold
-30 sec flat out
-ride at below aerobic threshold to start/training

This and a decent warm down negates the need for much aerobic training in the last two phases.

With the weight training the goal is to hit a new PB and then do some supplemental exercises. Select one main exercise hit the PB and then if lower body do some hamstring, glute, lower back and abs work. For upper body try and hit a PB for a Chest and Back exercise then do some supplemental work on the biceps, triceps, rear delts/rotator cuff abs and lower back. Power days are harder to judge as you use a load between 30-70% of max or body weight. If you don't have the snap in your efforts then pack up.

Most of this programme is based on my own understanding of cycling, physiology and sprinting. It includes elements from the new Aussie programme, a little of the old Gary West programme, some Charlie Francis from T&F sprinting (less the steroids), Louie Simmons conjugate method of training (less the steroids) for Powerlifters (which draws on Russian physiologist and biomechanist Yuri Verkoshansky), Mel Siff (strength/speed training expert, sadly deceased) and Peter Coe's (father of Seb Coe) multi tier training philosophy. Not much of the old East German programme as a lot of it is 3rd-4th hand information, it's 20 years old anyway and they took ****-loads of drugs.

Cheers

Hamish Ferguson
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Old 30-05.-2006, 08:27 AM   #77
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Hey everyone.

'fraid I'm a newbie, so apologies if my questions have missed the obvious.

Fergie, in your schedule (a large chunk of which I'm using, and have picked up a load of speed over the last 6 weeks - thanks!), you talk about reps of 6s max speed - is this a high cadence exercise with a moderate/low gear to develop leg speed, or should I be using a 'track' sized gear (eg 88 inches) to develop power?

Also, I don't have access to equipment/people (or money!) to test my VO2 max - is there any way I can use training levels based on heartrate or similar?

And does the 12 sets of 15s on, 15s off max VO2 actually mean a 6 minute training session (or am I being incredibly dumb)?

Would appreciate any help anyone can give me.
Cheers,
Sam.
Are you doing the lifting in the routine? How long have you been racing? Nothing to add, just interested in the results.
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Old 30-05.-2006, 08:05 PM   #78
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Hey Bill.

I'm coming back to racing after 5 or 6 years off! I've kept fit during this time (fair amount of cyling, running, etc), but nothing in the explosive/power range, though this is what I was naturally better at when I was last racing.

Have started specific sprint training for this season pretty late - only about 6 or 7 weeks and have been concentrating on getting speed and cadence back. I don't really have the time to do the whole of Fergie's programme (nor the regular cash to get access to a gym with a decent squat bar or leg press), and if I did manage to follow it to the letter, I'd burn myself out after a month. (Given that I'm pretty undertrained at the moment.)

In addition to the bike stuff (which I've been doing, though more towards the max power end rather than an threshold stuff), I do some overgeared starts every other week. Also, from this week, I'm going to start doing some lower body plyometrics once a week.

Hard to gauge accurately quite how much faster I'm going - I'm now able to hold long (20s) sprints much easier and with faster average speed on the turbo. Can also now get a decent sized gear (48x15, outdoor concrete) to top speed and still have something left in the tank to hold it and then kick again.

Will be doing the local track league from Monday onwards, so I'll let you know how I do....

And if anyone knows the answers to my previous questions re Fergie's programme, it would be much appreciated!!

Cheers,
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Old 30-05.-2006, 10:39 PM   #79
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Hey Bill.

I'm coming back to racing after 5 or 6 years off! I've kept fit during this time (fair amount of cyling, running, etc), but nothing in the explosive/power range, though this is what I was naturally better at when I was last racing.

Have started specific sprint training for this season pretty late - only about 6 or 7 weeks and have been concentrating on getting speed and cadence back. I don't really have the time to do the whole of Fergie's programme (nor the regular cash to get access to a gym with a decent squat bar or leg press), and if I did manage to follow it to the letter, I'd burn myself out after a month. (Given that I'm pretty undertrained at the moment.)

In addition to the bike stuff (which I've been doing, though more towards the max power end rather than an threshold stuff), I do some overgeared starts every other week. Also, from this week, I'm going to start doing some lower body plyometrics once a week.

Hard to gauge accurately quite how much faster I'm going - I'm now able to hold long (20s) sprints much easier and with faster average speed on the turbo. Can also now get a decent sized gear (48x15, outdoor concrete) to top speed and still have something left in the tank to hold it and then kick again.

Will be doing the local track league from Monday onwards, so I'll let you know how I do....

And if anyone knows the answers to my previous questions re Fergie's programme, it would be much appreciated!!

Cheers,
Sam.

Sam my man,

It's great to hear that you can't keep a good man down!

Fergie's program is quite sound, and centers around the basic fundamentals of sprinting.

From what I've read here, you need to continue what you have started. You said that you have remained fit, yet still realise that in order to sprint at a decent level you require a great deal more work.

Six-seven weeks is not a long time when embarking on a solid program. Not sure how old you are, but age will be a determining factor on your progress.

If I could offer any advise, continue what you are doing. And do as much as is possible, ( commitments, work, family, etc). And don't be afraid to build up the leg speed and endurance on 82-86" gears. You will recover better and then be able to do more training.

You mentioned that you have raced before, you will know when the time is right to bump your training gears to 88" + .


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Hey everyone.

'fraid I'm a newbie, so apologies if my questions have missed the obvious.

Fergie, in your schedule (a large chunk of which I'm using, and have picked up a load of speed over the last 6 weeks - thanks!), you talk about reps of 6s max speed - is this a high cadence exercise with a moderate/low gear to develop leg speed, or should I be using a 'track' sized gear (eg 88 inches) to develop power?

Also, I don't have access to equipment/people (or money!) to test my VO2 max - is there any way I can use training levels based on heartrate or similar?

And does the 12 sets of 15s on, 15s off max VO2 actually mean a 6 minute training session (or am I being incredibly dumb)?

Would appreciate any help anyone can give me.
Cheers,
Sam.


I'd skip the plyometrics in favor of other training that is much more specific for your goals. Maybe next year if you feel like you have lots of time to train you can use some things that are not so specific but maybe still helpful.

The 15/15's would be continuous for 5+ minutes. For a track sprint type rider (I am one) you will be better served to use 30/30's because these will include a harder acceleration that will help develop your ability to accelerate on the track. The 15/15's have a short rest and the accelerations can't be as hard, in part because your speed won't drop as much, and because you don't have enough recovery time to do some decent accelerations. 15/15's would be more suitable for a pursuit rider or similar.

Generally, you'd start out with about 10 minutes of total on/off time (e.g. 2 sets of 5x 30/30", 5 efforts of 30" with 4 efforts of rest between) and work up to 20 minutes or so, depending on your objectives. Allow 3-5' rest between sets depending on your fitness.

You can estimate your VO2max HR with intervals that illicit VO2max, like 4' as hard as you can do at steady pace, rest 5', repeat. I don't know why you'd really need to know your VO2max HR, just do the intervals by the effort you can sustain for the duration without slowing down much. Generally, HR isn't very useful for efforts done faster than your threshold.
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Old 31-05.-2006, 04:44 PM   #81
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Gidday Sam

Thanks for your comments. I think the programme is pretty ambitious. I would recommend less volume but put more intensity into efforts and allow full recovery. Theo Bos is quoted as saying a big part of his training is rest and a guy who wins the World Keirin by that much should be taken seriously. The Brits also do far less volume now and have greater recovery times.

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Fergie, in your schedule (a large chunk of which I'm using, and have picked up a load of speed over the last 6 weeks - thanks!), you talk about reps of 6s max speed - is this a high cadence exercise with a moderate/low gear to develop leg speed, or should I be using a 'track' sized gear (eg 88 inches) to develop power?


Can be 50m standing starts, 75m rolling starts or 100m flying coming off the motorbike or on a windtrainer with low resistance.

On the road they can be done with short hills, sprinting over the top for power, sprinting from the bottom for acceleration and sprinting downhill for leg speed .I have riders who don't have track access who put 50m 75m 100m 150m 200m and 500m markings down on the road for doing efforts.

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Also, I don't have access to equipment/people (or money!) to test my VO2 max - is there any way I can use training levels based on heartrate or similar?


Wouldn't worry about it. If your sprinting and vO2 comes into play something is wrong. Having a speedo that tells you max speed could be handy or down the track someone recording split times. In sprinting you don't aim to overload the body in the same way endurance riders do so you should always be aiming to go faster or lift more in the gym.

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And does the 12 sets of 15s on, 15s off max VO2 actually mean a 6 minute training session (or am I being incredibly dumb)?


Could be, although you would want to spend a while warming up for that type of effort. For training VO2 I have gone to pursuit pace efforts over 90sec to 3min rather than the on off efforts. I still think it's important to develop the aerobic system. Good thing is that pure sprinters don't have much of a aerobic system to start with and it doesn't take long

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ps, sorry for taking a while to reply, busy times, 3 of the 4 14-15 year old riders I started working with last year have made the NZ team and been flat out getting them up to speed for a trip to Aus.
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I'm coming back to racing after 5 or 6 years off! I've kept fit during this time (fair amount of cyling, running, etc), but nothing in the explosive/power range, though this is what I was naturally better at when I was last racing.


Me too, did nothing for 5 years. I expect it to take me a good three years to gt back into any sort of fitness to tackle some challenging racing goals.

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Have started specific sprint training for this season pretty late - only about 6 or 7 weeks and have been concentrating on getting speed and cadence back. I don't really have the time to do the whole of Fergie's programme (nor the regular cash to get access to a gym with a decent squat bar or leg press), and if I did manage to follow it to the letter, I'd burn myself out after a month. (Given that I'm pretty undertrained at the moment.)


On reflection I would say halve the programme, either the volume each day or take 2-3 hard sessions out per week.

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In addition to the bike stuff (which I've been doing, though more towards the max power end rather than an threshold stuff), I do some overgeared starts every other week. Also, from this week, I'm going to start doing some lower body plyometrics once a week.


All good stuff.

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Hard to gauge accurately quite how much faster I'm going - I'm now able to hold long (20s) sprints much easier and with faster average speed on the turbo. Can also now get a decent sized gear (48x15, outdoor concrete) to top speed and still have something left in the tank to hold it and then kick again.

Will be doing the local track league from Monday onwards, so I'll let you know how I do....


Cool, keep us up to date.

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Wow! Thanks for everyone getting back to me so quickly - all my questions answered and lots of food for thought. Glad to know I'm heading in the right direction. Right now, having got the racing bug again, I'll do the training I can (it's a good thing that my schedule forces me to do no more than 3 decent sessions a week - though then again, I've never been one for 'getting the miles in') and see how I'm going as the season progresses. At 27, I ain't aiming for the Olympics, but just hope to mix things up locally.

Thanks again and ride fast.
Sam.

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Me too, did nothing for 5 years. I expect it to take me a good three years to gt back into any sort of fitness to tackle some challenging racing goals.



On reflection I would say halve the programme, either the volume each day or take 2-3 hard sessions out per week.



All good stuff.



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Its amazing at the quality of posts that you can get on this forum and FGF. Warren G, 2006...oops 6002, Fergie back to back to back.
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Sam,

I didn't realise that you are still a puppy of 27yr.

I might not have been so easy on you.

Get work'in, you will be back !

Bill: I'am not sure who I'am some days either.

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