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13-12.-2004, 04:00 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:05:08 +0000, Brian G <junk@ardo-howe.co.uk>
wrote in message <3238hkF3h6qcsU1@individual.net>: >I haven't suggested someone else should pay. I supported both of them >substantially through their undergraduate years and continue to support >them to a fair extent now. The reality however is that the costs >involved in university education (in particular the punitive rentals >charged by many private landlords in our cities) have meant that they >have had to enter into significant loan deals in addition. This is an Excellent Thing as it gets them into the habits of debt which will make them such valuable members of the consumer society right up to their early death from alcoholism brought on by the stress of all that debt, saving the nation a fortune in pensions... Guy -- "then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales |
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13-12.-2004, 04:26 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:05:08 +0000, Brian G <junk@ardo-howe.co.uk> > wrote in message <3238hkF3h6qcsU1@individual.net>: > > >>I haven't suggested someone else should pay. I supported both of them >>substantially through their undergraduate years and continue to support >>them to a fair extent now. The reality however is that the costs >>involved in university education (in particular the punitive rentals >>charged by many private landlords in our cities) have meant that they >>have had to enter into significant loan deals in addition. > > > This is an Excellent Thing as it gets them into the habits of debt > which will make them such valuable members of the consumer society > right up to their early death from alcoholism brought on by the stress > of all that debt, saving the nation a fortune in pensions... And best of luck to your family too... -- Brian G |
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13-12.-2004, 05:33 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
aquaplex2004 wrote:
> Im currently undertaking a project on the bike industry in the Uk for a > University course and to be honest I have no clue whatso ever about > bikes! > > I'm just wondering if some of you could let me know what things you > consider to be important when buying a bicycle (price, brand, features, > performance etc) please, and to also rank them in order of importance A threaded headset and a chromolly steel frame. |
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13-12.-2004, 05:57 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:26:38 +0000, Brian G <junk@ardo-howe.co.uk>
wrote in message <323gquF3flsduU1@individual.net>: >> This is an Excellent Thing as it gets them into the habits of debt >> which will make them such valuable members of the consumer society >> right up to their early death from alcoholism brought on by the stress >> of all that debt, saving the nation a fortune in pensions... >And best of luck to your family too... Hey, I was just expressing my cynicism about the institutionalised debt caused by student loans. One of the reasons we are still paying our old mortgage endowment premiums after switching to a One Account is so that we will actually be able to afford to help the kids through uni. There is no way I could have gone to uni without a full grant - my dad was a college lecturer, permanently skint. Guy -- "then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales |
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13-12.-2004, 05:58 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:33:48 GMT, "Steven M. Scharf"
<scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message <w21vd.8897$yr1.1833@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>: >A threaded headset and a chromolly steel frame. Or not, depending. Guy -- "then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales |
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13-12.-2004, 06:04 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:58:04 +0000, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>>A threaded headset and a chromolly steel frame. > > Or not, depending. Lusting after a carbon-fibre Windcheetah, eh Guy? Me too! Mike |
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13-12.-2004, 06:18 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
"Tumbleweed" <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> writes:
>"Tony Raven" <junk@raven-family.com> wrote in message >news:32335iF3foaohU1@individual.net... >> Tumbleweed wrote: >>> Werent they all employed in soem respect by their >>> universities.professors, teaching assistants etc? >> And where does University funding come from? >Some from the tax paper, some from patronage, some from industry. All a >fixed amount rather than an open ended sum available to anyone who'd like to >study indefinitely. You don't get accepted to do a postgrad degree just because you want to. There are necessary qualifications, which ensures that only a few unusually clever and well educated folk are allowed in. And you don't get to study indefinitely. If you muck about you get thrown out. If you try hard but can't make the grade you get thrown out. And if you do make reasonable progress, but slowly, after a certain reasonable amount of time you're thrown on your own resources. After a certain further time, you're thrown out. -- Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] |
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13-12.-2004, 07:34 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:04:30 GMT, Mike Causer
<mikec@firstnamelastname.com.invalid> wrote in message <pan.2004.12.12.20.04.22.966136@firstnamelastname.com.invalid>: >>>A threaded headset and a chromolly steel frame. >> Or not, depending. >Lusting after a carbon-fibre Windcheetah, eh Guy? Curses! Rumbled! ;-) Guy -- "then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales |
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13-12.-2004, 07:44 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:34:21 +0000, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>>Lusting after a carbon-fibre Windcheetah, eh Guy? > > Curses! Rumbled! ;-) But have you noticed that the top of the line model now features a "hyperactive seat suspension system"? Boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing ....... Mike |
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13-12.-2004, 08:47 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:26:38 +0000, Brian G <junk@ardo-howe.co.uk> > wrote in message <323gquF3flsduU1@individual.net>: > > >>>This is an Excellent Thing as it gets them into the habits of debt >>>which will make them such valuable members of the consumer society >>>right up to their early death from alcoholism brought on by the stress >>>of all that debt, saving the nation a fortune in pensions... > > >>And best of luck to your family too... > > > Hey, I was just expressing my cynicism about the institutionalised > debt caused by student loans. One of the reasons we are still paying > our old mortgage endowment premiums after switching to a One Account > is so that we will actually be able to afford to help the kids through > uni. There is no way I could have gone to uni without a full grant - > my dad was a college lecturer, permanently skint. Fair enough. It's such a difficult thing for a parent to watch without feeling a lot of guilt which is really not necessary. The most annoying part is that the kids themselves shrug their shoulders at the debt situation; old fogeys like me were brought up to regard debt as just about as acceptable as a recurring dose of clap. -- Brian G |
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13-12.-2004, 08:57 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:47:23 +0000, Brian G <junk@ardo-howe.co.uk>
wrote in message <32403sF3gam3nU1@individual.net>: >Fair enough. It's such a difficult thing for a parent to watch without >feeling a lot of guilt which is really not necessary. The most annoying >part is that the kids themselves shrug their shoulders at the debt >situation; old fogeys like me were brought up to regard debt as just >about as acceptable as a recurring dose of clap. Ain't that the truth. When did debt suddenly become a good thing? I suppose about the time that house price inflation became property investment ;-) Guy -- "then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales |
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13-12.-2004, 09:15 AM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> > > Ain't that the truth. When did debt suddenly become a good thing? When there was a realistic prospect of us becoming third world country and having some kindly rich nation wipe out all our debt for us ;-) Tony |
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13-12.-2004, 01:07 PM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
> Ain't that the truth. When did debt suddenly become a good thing?
Probably about the time that the government listened to the banks ideas for replacing the grant. |
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13-12.-2004, 05:55 PM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
"Brian G" <junk@ardo-howe.co.uk> wrote in message news:3238hkF3h6qcsU1@individual.net... <snip> >> > I haven't suggested someone else should pay. I supported both of them > substantially through their undergraduate years and continue to support > them to a fair extent now. The reality however is that the costs involved > in university education (in particular the punitive rentals charged by > many private landlords in our cities) have meant that they have had to > enter into significant loan deals in addition. > Since rents are now returning the same level of income as if the money had just been invested in a b soc account, say 4 or 5%, I dont think 'punitive' is a good choice of phrase. -- Tumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com |
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13-12.-2004, 06:20 PM
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Re: What are the most important things when buying a bike?
Tumbleweed wrote:
> Since rents are now returning the same level of income as if the money had > just been invested in a b soc account, say 4 or 5%, I dont think 'punitive' > is a good choice of phrase. You sound like you have had no experience of student accommodation in university cities in some time. In Sheffield there was a completely separate student housing market which did it's utmost to charge to excess for a bare minimum. The house I lived in for my last year in the city was several cuts above all other student accommodation because the girl who owned it was a student in the city. Jon |
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