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What are the most important things when buying a bike?

 
 
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Old 11-12.-2004, 08:47 PM   #31
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"aquaplex2004" <aquaplex2004.1h1txy@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in
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> I'm just wondering if some of you could let me know what things you
> consider to be important when buying a bicycle


Always the price in my case, if I can't afford it I can't have it.

Pete


 
Old 11-12.-2004, 08:56 PM   #32
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aquaplex2004 <aquaplex2004.1h1txy@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> writes:

>Im currently undertaking a project on the bike industry in the Uk for a
>University course and to be honest I have no clue whatso ever about
>bikes!


>I'm just wondering if some of you could let me know what things you
>consider to be important when buying a bicycle (price, brand, features,
>performance etc) please, and to also rank them in order of importance


Clearly you have never even once visited the university library,
because if you had, you would have noticed that there are dozens of
bikes parked outside it, if not hundreds.
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Old 12-12.-2004, 03:28 AM   #33
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Peter B wrote:
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> "aquaplex2004" <aquaplex2004.1h1txy@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in
> message news:aquaplex2004.1h1txy@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
>
> > I'm just wondering if some of you could let me know what things you
> > consider to be important when buying a bicycle

>
> Always the price in my case, if I can't afford it I can't have it.


I find if I can't afford it I nearly always want it :-(

John B
 
Old 12-12.-2004, 04:28 AM   #34
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"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> aquaplex2004 <aquaplex2004.1h1txy@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> writes:
>
>>Im currently undertaking a project on the bike industry in the Uk for a
>>University course and to be honest I have no clue whatso ever about
>>bikes!

>
>>I'm just wondering if some of you could let me know what things you
>>consider to be important when buying a bicycle (price, brand, features,
>>performance etc) please, and to also rank them in order of importance

>
> Clearly you have never even once visited the university library,
> because if you had, you would have noticed that there are dozens of
> bikes parked outside it, if not hundreds.


Jeez is this guy a Cambridge student? Even more depressing, I thought they
had standards? Or is he a royal?
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Old 12-12.-2004, 05:14 AM   #35
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In article <320siiF3f54opU1@individual.net>,
"Tumbleweed" <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> Jeez is this guy a Cambridge student? Even more depressing, I thought they
> had standards? Or is he a royal?


Oy, that's my alma mater[1]! Why do you suggest it?

[1] privileged to be middle-aged; if I were a sixth-former now there's
no way I could afford Cambridge. A generation ago we got in on merit.

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Old 12-12.-2004, 05:37 AM   #36
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"Nick Kew" <nick@hugin.webthing.com> wrote in message
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> In article <320siiF3f54opU1@individual.net>,
> "Tumbleweed" <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>> Jeez is this guy a Cambridge student? Even more depressing, I thought
>> they
>> had standards? Or is he a royal?

>
> Oy, that's my alma mater[1]! Why do you suggest it?
>
> [1] privileged to be middle-aged; if I were a sixth-former now there's
> no way I could afford Cambridge. A generation ago we got in on merit.


Suggest what?
Thats its Cambridge...well, you said, if you go to the library, you'll see
loads of bikes, Assumed you had looked up his originating address, otherwise
why suggest going to cambridge library?
Or if you meant, why did I suggest a royal, then didnt Price Charles have a
woodwork O level or similar and still got into Cambridge?

BTW, why couldnt you afford Cambridge now? Surely not on the grounds you'd
have to pay the price of a round of drinks every month to repay your loan?

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Old 12-12.-2004, 05:55 AM   #37
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Tumbleweed wrote:

> BTW, why couldnt you afford Cambridge now? Surely not on the grounds you'd
> have to pay the price of a round of drinks every month to repay your loan?


Don't know how many people you drink with, but if my children paid the
price of 10 drinks or so every month they'd pay off their education
loans sometime in the next millennium (Scottish and London universities,
rather than Cambridge).

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Old 12-12.-2004, 07:27 AM   #38
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in message <cpf7j7$ais$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, Jeremy Parker
('JeremyParker@compuserve.com') wrote:

>> Sniper:
>> Seems a funny topic to pick if you have no interest in cycling.

>
> Not necessarily.**Do*you*think*that*the*directors*of*most*bike
> companies are interested in cycling?


I would hope so, yes. I would suggest that the reason that all of
Britain's major bicycle builders are now shadows of their former selves
is because of this belief that corporate governance is a skill set in
itself, and that the people at the top don't need to know anything
about the underlying business.

I would suggest to you that Raleigh's directors probably no nothing and
care less about cycling. I would suggest to you that Orange's directors
probably test-ride prototypes before they're passed for production. I
would also suggest to you that that is why Raleigh continues to
decline, and Orange continues to grow.

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Old 12-12.-2004, 07:44 AM   #39
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:37:38 -0000, "Tumbleweed"
<thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Or if you meant, why did I suggest a royal, then didnt Price Charles have a
>woodwork O level or similar and still got into Cambridge?


He got into Trinity with A levels in history (B) and French (C).

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Old 12-12.-2004, 07:56 AM   #40
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"Brian G" <junk@ardo-howe.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Tumbleweed wrote:
>
>> BTW, why couldnt you afford Cambridge now? Surely not on the grounds
>> you'd have to pay the price of a round of drinks every month to repay
>> your loan?

>
> Don't know how many people you drink with, but if my children paid the
> price of 10 drinks or so every month they'd pay off their education loans
> sometime in the next millennium (Scottish and London universities, rather
> than Cambridge).
>
> --
> Brian G


have you looked up earnings vs payments?

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Old 12-12.-2004, 07:57 AM   #41
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"Dave Kahn" <dkahn400@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:37:38 -0000, "Tumbleweed"
> <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Or if you meant, why did I suggest a royal, then didnt Price Charles have
>>a
>>woodwork O level or similar and still got into Cambridge?

>
> He got into Trinity with A levels in history (B) and French (C).
>


For cambridge, thats equivalent to a woodwork O level. :-)

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Old 12-12.-2004, 08:08 AM   #42
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Tumbleweed wrote:

> "Brian G" <junk@ardo-howe.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3211ktF3gh5ehU1@individual.net...
>
>>Tumbleweed wrote:
>>
>>
>>>BTW, why couldnt you afford Cambridge now? Surely not on the grounds
>>>you'd have to pay the price of a round of drinks every month to repay
>>>your loan?

>>
>>Don't know how many people you drink with, but if my children paid the
>>price of 10 drinks or so every month they'd pay off their education loans
>>sometime in the next millennium (Scottish and London universities, rather
>>than Cambridge).
>>
>>--
>>Brian G

>
>
> have you looked up earnings vs payments?


You're referring only to Student Loans, I think. Sadly my children,
like many others, are knee deep in straight commercial loans, career
development loans and so on in addition to Student Loans. These mainly
arise from post-grad studies.

This is the brave new world of educational funding.


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Old 12-12.-2004, 08:48 AM   #43
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"Brian G" <junk@ardo-howe.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Tumbleweed wrote:
>
>> "Brian G" <junk@ardo-howe.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:3211ktF3gh5ehU1@individual.net...
>>
>>>Tumbleweed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>BTW, why couldnt you afford Cambridge now? Surely not on the grounds
>>>>you'd have to pay the price of a round of drinks every month to repay
>>>>your loan?
>>>
>>>Don't know how many people you drink with, but if my children paid the
>>>price of 10 drinks or so every month they'd pay off their education loans
>>>sometime in the next millennium (Scottish and London universities, rather
>>>than Cambridge).
>>>
>>>--
>>>Brian G

>>
>>
>> have you looked up earnings vs payments?

>
> You're referring only to Student Loans, I think. Sadly my children, like
> many others, are knee deep in straight commercial loans, career
> development loans and so on in addition to Student Loans. These mainly
> arise from post-grad studies.


So your actual statement should have been soemthing like 'if i wanted to
take a post graduate degreeI'd have to pay for it myself instead of everyone
else with a job paying for it like they used to in teh good old days". I
cant see a problem with that.

> This is the brave new world of educational funding.
>
>

With 5-10x the number of people going to university than when you went, the
old systems cant finance it. And even if they could, why should they
especially for post grad degrees. Of course, rich people can always pay for
their studies, but the same goes for everything else as well. Dont see why
it shoud be any different for a post grad degree in baroque music or
whatever.

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Old 12-12.-2004, 10:52 AM   #44
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In article <fdqmr09i6uripin1cmm0lisu8jkt5v9kvf@4ax.com>,
Dave Kahn <dkahn400@yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> He got into Trinity with A levels in history (B) and French (C).


There are always upper class twits with dismal A-levels like that.
Many of the older colleges have significant numbers of places reserved
for them under the terms of various benefactors, which makes it
profitable to accept them regardless of academic considerations.

ISTR there was even a degree for them. "Land Economy" was a standing
joke amongst us plebs, but was there for the nobs who wanted an
undemanding qualification to preside over the ancestral estates.

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Old 12-12.-2004, 11:00 AM   #45
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In article <3210k0F3gdbatU1@individual.net>,
"Tumbleweed" <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> writes:


> Suggest what?
> Thats its Cambridge...well, you said, if you go to the library, you'll see


Who said that?

> loads of bikes, Assumed you had looked up his originating address, otherwise


I don't have the original article, only the followups.

> why suggest going to cambridge library?


Who suggested that?

> BTW, why couldnt you afford Cambridge now? Surely not on the grounds you'd
> have to pay the price of a round of drinks every month to repay your loan?


Frankly I don't know how much it really costs. In my day, grants were in
decline, but at least they still existed: I don't think I'd have dared go
to uni if it meant a large loan. So I'd have had to hunt for a scholarship/
sponsorship instead of devoting myself to pure academia.

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