heart attacks?

half_pint

"Zardoz" <me@you.twang> wrote in message
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>
> >I cannot recall any incidents *whatsoever* of anyone being injured
> >by a bike on the pavement.
>
> But aren't you a hopeless pedant who scours the internet for the
> remotest bit of evidence to back up whatever hole you've dug yourself
> into?
>
> from a quick google
>
> <snip>
>
> Mrs Fisher said: "Although he maybe shouldn't have run across the
> pavement,
> the cyclist should not have been there at all.
> "It is something that has bothered me since I started taking him to
> school
> in September because you often see parents and other adults riding on
> the
> pavement.
> "But I never thought that my son would be a victim of my pet hate."
> The woman cyclist, who came off her bike in the accident, was shaken
> but
> uninjured.
> Medical staff at Hull Royal Infirmary have recommended Oliver stay
> home from
> school for a couple of days.
> Mrs Fisher, a teddy bear restorer, said: "It is not just children who
> could
> be injured - there are a lot of elderly people around here.
> "I know the police have better things to do but I have seen them
> watching

Yes those hald blind elderly folk who are mowing down child cyclists
with their cars on a daily basis, oh yes those poor sweet souls.

>
> <snip>
>
> And I do remember a thread on here following a ped's death by a
> cyclist.

David Martin

On 7/12/04 4:59 pm, in article 31m5psF3cpo6eU1@individual.net, "half_pint"
<info@uk.millwardbrown.com> wrote:


> Yes those hald blind elderly folk who are mowing down child cyclists
> with their cars on a daily basis, oh yes those poor sweet souls.

Out of the 20 or so child deaths last year while cycling, how many were
killed by collision with a vehicle driven by such a person, when it was not
the cyclist's fault?

Oh, once again you have no evidence to support that allegation.

...d

Richard Bates

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:14:41 -0000, "half_pint"
<info@uk.millwardbrown.com> wrote:

>Why make laws to please people who are retarded?

Because we have to keep you happy.


--
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you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'.
... erm, how do they figure that one out?

half_pint

"Richard" <richard@nomail.nospam.thanks> wrote in message
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> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> > Pavement cycling is illegal, inconsiderate and puts you and the people
> > around you at risk. Oh, and it gives cyclists a bad name.
>
> And pedestrians are fearful of an accident, which is the strongest
> reason for me. In just the same way that it's illegal to go around
> throwing punches or kicks that just miss, because it makes people
> fearful of actually being hit.


Why make laws to please people who are retarded?
>
> R.

half_pint

"David Martin" <d.m.a.martin@dundee.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:BDDB93D5.51F7%d.m.a.martin@dundee.ac.uk...
> On 7/12/04 4:59 pm, in article 31m5psF3cpo6eU1@individual.net, "half_pint"
> <info@uk.millwardbrown.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Yes those hald blind elderly folk who are mowing down child cyclists
> > with their cars on a daily basis, oh yes those poor sweet souls.
>
> Out of the 20 or so child deaths last year while cycling, how many were
> killed by collision with a vehicle driven by such a person, when it was
not
> the cyclist's fault?

How many old folk were killed by child cyclist last year? Answer zero.

>
> Oh, once again you have no evidence to support that allegation.
>
> ..d
>

Chris Malcolm

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <norfolk.inspam@dev.null> writes:

>On 6 Dec 2004 04:07:42 -0800, simon@simonproven.co.uk wrote:

>>Probably, he was referring to this:
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3761012.stm
>>...and applying his usual level of logic.

>Indeed. Because when there was a study of risk of coronary heart
>disease in cyclists, it was found that they had lower levels of CHD
>than people who took their exercise in gyms.

See

http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/i...b-escalator.jpg

for a possible reason...
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IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

half_pint

"Richard Bates" <usenet01@artybee.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:14:41 -0000, "half_pint"
> <info@uk.millwardbrown.com> wrote:
>
> >Why make laws to please people who are retarded?
>
> Because we have to keep you happy.

You are the one who is happy sunshine, you attention span at its
limit again?
>
>
> --
> Amazon: "If you are interested in 'Asimov's I-Robot',
> you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'.
> ... erm, how do they figure that one out?

Chris Malcolm

"half_pint" <info@uk.millwardbrown.com> writes:

>"JLB" <JLB@bigbad.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:cp2sle$7sj$2$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
>> half_pint wrote:

>> > Yes the HC does mention cyclists but it our roads were built almost
>> > exclusively
>> > for motorists.

>> Such great foresight our remote ancestors had... or was it that roads
>> were only invented a hundred or so years ago? I forget.

>Not too sure what you mean by that, most modern roads are built almost
>exclusively for cars.

By far the most serious design constraints on modern roads are those
imposed by lorries, so it would be more true to say that modern roads
are built for lorries, and it so happens that what works for lorries
is quite usable by cars. And, it so happens, is often quite usable by
bicycles. And it so happens, is often quite usable by pedestrians.

--
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IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

Chris Malcolm

"half_pint" <info@uk.millwardbrown.com> writes:

>"Richard" <richard@percival.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:cp3ojj$56i$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
>> half_pint wrote:

>> > Why shouldn't you cycle on the pavement when you are causing
>> > no inconvienience to anyone except for some 'jobsworth'?
>> > Prams and push chairs are allowed on pavements.

>> It also leads to the mentality "Well, if that cyclist is breaking the
>> law by cycling on the pavement, he/she can't object to me breaking the
>> law by driving in the cycle lane/speeding/etc."

>Only an idiot (who should not be driving) would form that opinion.

And until the law prevents idiots from driving that will continue to
be a serious problem.



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IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

half_pint

"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:cp4p4u$mhb$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk...
> "half_pint" <info@uk.millwardbrown.com> writes:
>
> >"JLB" <JLB@bigbad.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:cp2sle$7sj$2$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> >> half_pint wrote:
>
> >> > Yes the HC does mention cyclists but it our roads were built almost
> >> > exclusively
> >> > for motorists.
>
> >> Such great foresight our remote ancestors had... or was it that roads
> >> were only invented a hundred or so years ago? I forget.
>
> >Not too sure what you mean by that, most modern roads are built almost
> >exclusively for cars.
>
> By far the most serious design constraints on modern roads are those
> imposed by lorries, so it would be more true to say that modern roads
> are built for lorries, and it so happens that what works for lorries
> is quite usable by cars. And, it so happens, is often quite usable by
> bicycles. And it so happens, is often quite usable by pedestrians.

They certaintly were not designed for cyclists thats for sure
>
> --
> Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
> IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
> [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]
>

half_pint

"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <norfolk.inspam@dev.null> writes:
>
> >On 6 Dec 2004 04:07:42 -0800, simon@simonproven.co.uk wrote:
>
> >>Probably, he was referring to this:
> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3761012.stm
> >>...and applying his usual level of logic.
>
> >Indeed. Because when there was a study of risk of coronary heart
> >disease in cyclists, it was found that they had lower levels of CHD
> >than people who took their exercise in gyms.
>
> See
>
> http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/i...b-escalator.jpg
>
> for a possible reason...


LOL I didn't really notice anything unusual when I first looked at the
picture, as I just glanced a it.
However it is clear that there are escalators providing acess to the
gym and the escalotors are being used.
I have never seen outdoor escalators before.
I am not sure if they are real (functioning) escalators though.

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:06:04 -0000, "half_pint"
<info@uk.millwardbrown.com> wrote in message
<31m9m8F3cbn8jU1@individual.net>:

>They certaintly were not designed for cyclists thats for sure

If they were they would cost a fraction of the price. Apart from the
tunnels under every hill, of course.

Guy
--
"then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels
blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs
onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles
around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales

Just zis Guy, you know?

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:15:52 -0000, "half_pint"
<info@uk.millwardbrown.com> wrote in message
<31m6o4F3c0elfU1@individual.net>:

>How many old folk were killed by child cyclist last year? Answer zero.

Or more. The figures posted cover only pedestrians on roads and
footways.

Guy
--
"then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels
blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs
onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles
around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales

Danny Colyer

MartinM wrote:
> one particularly annoying Roodedoo* driver comment I get is "why do we have
> to give you 6 feet of clearance when you give us 6 inches?"
>
> * rabbit speak for cars from Watership Down;

I believe that would be "hrududu".

I can't believe I'm correcting rabbit spelling :-/

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"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine