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Best track sprinter

Poll: Greatest Male Track Sprinter since The 80's
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Old 26-11.-2004, 03:37 AM   #31
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As far as I know, John Kennedy still holds the world record for the
"Professional Outdoor Flying 200m", with a time of 10.405 seconds.

10.405 J. F. KENNEDY (USA) 24.08.1991 COLORADO SPRINGS (USA), V. 7-Eleven

There's an error on the UCI page which states that he's from the USA.
http://www.uci.ch/english/palmares/...ecord_index.htm

Obviously, since 1991 the pros and amateurs have been thrown in together, so his "professional" is kinda redundant.

I think the attempt cost him about $10,000, so he naturally sought sponsors, and was contacted by Zipp to use one of their bikes. I'm too scared to tell the story about his thoughts on the bike for fear of liable , but i'll just say that there were definitely moments that John wished he was on one of his good old steel track bikes.

Nothstein did 10.347 on an outdoor track 1996 in T-town http://www.lvvelo.org/records.htm
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Old 26-11.-2004, 02:34 PM   #32
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Nothstein did 10.347 on an outdoor track 1996 in T-town http://www.lvvelo.org/records.htm


Ah well, he should've had a UCI official there, like John did, then
he might've got himself an official record.
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Old 27-11.-2004, 05:00 AM   #33
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There's a lot more to come from Flyin' Ryan Bayley. Worth noting that some of his Olympic and World Champs times were slightly overstated as a result of his kick to the line raising his front wheel - many of his times reflect when his BACK wheel crosses.


Some sprinters during qualifying for the 200m TT will attempt to lift their front wheel when hitting the timing strip start so the clock runs off the back wheel.

200m times during actual match racing are irrelevant and should not be used as markers for comparison. Having the fastest 200m time during racing has no bragging rights if you cannot win 2 out of 3 and are eliminated or lose the final.

There are good match sprinters who have difficulty qualifying through the 200m TTs. 200m TTs do not address tactical skills and acceleration.

Must go practice lifting my front wheel
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Old 27-11.-2004, 01:24 PM   #34
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Some sprinters during qualifying for the 200m TT will attempt to lift their front wheel when hitting the timing strip start so the clock runs off the back wheel.


That's gotta be damn hard with all the force onthe rider
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Old 20-12.-2004, 08:42 AM   #35
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That's gotta be damn hard with all the force onthe rider

Is it even legal? Do officials look for this? This sounds nearly impossible to do on a shorter track. Maybe on a 400 where you hit the timing strip before the turn.
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Old 20-12.-2004, 12:22 PM   #36
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If anyone watched the Olympics, they would've seen Bayley do this several times.
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Old 20-12.-2004, 06:26 PM   #37
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why would Bayley have done this several times at the Olympics? surely he only did one 200m TT?

Unless you are referring to his customary bike throw at the finish line where his front wheel often leaves the ground, ofcourse being timed on your back wheel at the finish line has the opposite effect to being timed on your back wheel at the 200m line, as pointed out earlier in this thread.
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Old 21-12.-2004, 09:21 AM   #38
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Is it even legal? Do officials look for this? This sounds nearly impossible to do on a shorter track. Maybe on a 400 where you hit the timing strip before the turn.




Its not that hard or special. I know several riders(non pro) who can do this. Even on 166meter and 250 meter tracks in the turn. The lifting is not the hard thing its the timing. You need to lift at the right spot not too late not early and not too long as it all costs time. The best ones only lift their wheel 5cm from the track for a short distance(minimal risk and effort for the same gain.
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Old 23-12.-2004, 07:34 PM   #39
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Please use the above poll to vote for who you think is the best track sprinter since the 80's to the present, i hope this gets a lively debate going

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Ryan Bayley, hands down. Most comprehensive annihilation in olympic (any sport) history.
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58''875 ARNAUD TOURNANT (FRA)

Not only does Arnaud hold the current WR for the standing start Kilo but seeing him race in person was really awesome. He's so strong he could toy with the other racers and then accelerate down the backstretch, pull into turn 3 with the lead and then give it enough to beat the other guy. He didn't have to rub it in their face or get all cocky. He didnt' need to be a Nothstein to prove how fast he is. In fact when it came down to the final with the two French riders he gave the win to his teammate who needed the points.

Arnaud is a very friendly guy who isn't all caught up in himself or his world record. I worked the recent World Cup in L.A. as a holder and gate tech and got to talk to quite a few of the racers. Spoke to Arnaud for about a half hour and he gave me all kinds of tips on tracks, technique, bikes, tires, etc.

That would be my vote.
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Old 28-12.-2004, 09:04 AM   #41
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Ryan Bayley, hands down. Most comprehensive annihilation in olympic (any sport) history.
So tell me how you justify this?
The poll was for best track sprinter since the 80's and while Ryan has won 1 Olympics (which took 3 rides in the final hardly an annihalation!) at least two other cyclists have won two.
Bit early to be calling him the best maybe?
By the way Lutz Hesslich didnt lose a single ride on his way to winning in 1988.

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So tell me how you justify this?
The poll was for best track sprinter since the 80's and while Ryan has won 1 Olympics (which took 3 rides in the final hardly an annihalation!) at least two other cyclists have won two.
Bit early to be calling him the best maybe?
By the way Lutz Hesslich didnt lose a single ride on his way to winning in 1988.

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Old 06-01.-2005, 07:56 AM   #43
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I agree with that. "He didnt' need to be a Nothstein to prove how fast he is." Nothstien is one of the biggest asses I know. I can't stand him.
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Old 06-01.-2005, 01:25 PM   #44
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So tell me how you justify this?
The poll was for best track sprinter since the 80's and while Ryan has won 1 Olympics (which took 3 rides in the final hardly an annihalation!) at least two other cyclists have won two.
Bit early to be calling him the best maybe?
By the way Lutz Hesslich didnt lose a single ride on his way to winning in 1988.

Lee

did you happen to see the keiren as well??? pretty sure he was finished and having a coke and burger by the time the others had crossed the line !!
on 2 hours sleep after drinking piss for 10 hours the night before to celebrate his thumping of Bos.

Saw Bayley beat fiedler and harnett, when he was a 16yr old and they were olympic champs/on top of their game. case closed.
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Old 03-02.-2005, 10:13 AM   #45
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Wondering why Sergei Kopylov didn't make the list? He beat Hesslich for two world championship titles, medaled in a couple of others and won the world championship in the kilo. Overall I think Hesslich was more dominant, but you've got to at least put Kopylov on the list.
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