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Originally Posted by FredC

Yes, Loved every minute of it, although I'm better known for bike racing in Europe as a Pro. Suppose I'm a bit blase about bike racing these days, not that I don't try to put something back into it, but that's a longer story. Just look at BRF and Lim, and you'll find that we know everybody. BRF is still in good condition and going to have a go at winning the age related World Championships next year. Lims still putting back in. Just read up on BRF, and his posts.
As for the weights, I watched the Olympics, and was lifting with them all, shouting 'Yes' 'No' 'Good lift' 'Shit position', I lifted every Kilo with them. Of course I don't expect cyclists to go further than my power increasing format, and it doesn't put on weight. There is a poster called 'closesupport' who was a good lifter, but spends his time messing about in other areas of 'cyclingforums' he's a witty and interesting person from the same city of Manchester UK as me. I won't post on the other bits, with twats who ask
' How often should I lube my bike?' What for? it doesn't eat the stuff sat in a garage. I might make a few enquiries about Tony, I think I know where to start. Let's see. Jeeeez, wasn't I the lucky one?

Originally Posted by limerickman

Gotta say hats off to the BRF.
It is one thing cycling and doing your own stuff.
But to be competing and to be in the shakeup for a place - which I have no doubt BRF will be - is a whole different kettle of fish.
He's a natural.
I reckon he's got natural ability and he works hard as well.
Some people are just like that.

Take my mate Johnny Quinn.
Great cyclist in his late teens, early 20's.
Got selected for the Olympics too.
Had to drop out.
He used to pulverise people - Jude & Laurence Roche (brothers of you know who - 1987 !!!) were amongst his victims.

Came back last year after being out for 12 years, doing nothing.
Did the Wicklow 200 at 16stone, under 9 hours.
He can just pedal.
Natural.
I saw him beat Peter Crinnion in a race when he was a junior and Crinnion
was just past his prime (Crinnion had been professional).

Quinners going for the Etape in 2005.
Target weight 13stone.
He's now 14 stone.

Originally Posted by philhudson

Yeah I get what your saying but they have spent about £1500 on my cycling stuff for me!

Originally Posted by bikeriderfrance

thats no problem, put a black bin liner next to your skin, bang on the usuall winter stuff and you loose 1 stone every 100 miles, ie 3 rides its off, i know it worked for me when i went out to south africa, 3 stone over weight, 3 weeks i was down to my 12 stone racing weight.. i now wieght about 70kilo, which i think is less that 12 stone, fred c will know.. bon courage.

Originally Posted by bikeriderfrance

thats no problem, put a black bin liner next to your skin, bang on the usuall winter stuff and you loose 1 stone every 100 miles, ie 3 rides its off, i know it worked for me when i went out to south africa, 3 stone over weight, 3 weeks i was down to my 12 stone racing weight.. i now wieght about 70kilo, which i think is less that 12 stone, fred c will know.. bon courage.

Originally Posted by limerickman

Gotta say hats off to the BRF.
It is one thing cycling and doing your own stuff.
But to be competing and to be in the shakeup for a place - which I have no doubt BRF will be - is a whole different kettle of fish.
He's a natural.
I reckon he's got natural ability and he works hard as well.
Some people are just like that.
Take my mate Johnny Quinn.
Great cyclist in his late teens, early 20's.
Got selected for the Olympics too.
Had to drop out.
He used to pulverise people - Jude & Laurence Roche (brothers of you know who - 1987 !!!) were amongst his victims.
Came back last year after being out for 12 years, doing nothing.
Did the Wicklow 200 at 16stone, under 9 hours.
He can just pedal.
Natural.
I saw him beat Peter Crinnion in a race when he was a junior and Crinnion
was just past his prime (Crinnion had been professional).
Quinners going for the Etape in 2005.
Target weight 13stone.
He's now 14 stone.

Originally Posted by bikeriderfrance

thats no problem, put a black bin liner next to your skin, bang on the usuall winter stuff and you loose 1 stone every 100 miles, ie 3 rides its off, i know it worked for me when i went out to south africa, 3 stone over weight, 3 weeks i was down to my 12 stone racing weight.. i now wieght about 70kilo, which i think is less that 12 stone, fred c will know.. bon courage.

Originally Posted by FredC

Be jasus Lim, We are worked hard to get to the top. BRF was making his way, chipping away at some of the hardest bastards in the North on his side of the Pennines, and we were doing the same thing on our side. The only way of getting there was aim for that level, because that was how you measured yourself. You did the same thing in Ireland. There is no hierarchy in cycling, just look at my post about Jim Carson.
Just looking at some of the above from Lim, I actually rode for bets on 200k in the Pennines off no miles, and a few other ridiculous things, always collected against the doubters, which made my reputation more incredible. I don't give a shit anymore, I don't have to, but what a great time, at least I can sit here and be satisfied.

Originally Posted by FredC

I'm not a proposer, nor supporter, of the black bin liner school of fitness. BRF is cotradicting himself here. As prevoiusly mentioned I cannot remember a rider devoting his victory to a bin liner, or indeed a Turdo. There we are then, it's just miles and miles, and hours and hours a day. Slow burn off.

Originally Posted by limerickman

The bin liner is used by a lot of people I know - genuinely.
Next door neighbour is a marathon runner and he uses them.

I agree with you though - the slow burn off is better than the instant fix.
Three rides to lose 3 stone - I think BRF was just going slightly over the top.

Originally Posted by bikeriderfrance

yes ok, the point is that the bin liner does work, i went to live and work in south africa, i also got a contract with the citreon pro team there in port elizabeth.. due to the very complicated business of going to live abroad with a wife and 2 small children i had to STOP riding the bike for about 6 months.. i put on 3 stone, up from around 12st to 15 stone... we moved got settled in and got the pro contract... problem middle of racing season, got the team, had to get fit quick.... to do this i used the magic black bag system,, rode with it on for 3 weeks and lost the 3 stone..... what you have to remember is that all that extra weight is WATER, you do not need it.... get rid of it, i must add that as usuall i trained 5 days a week and raced one, the others trainer 3 times a week, and raced one... miles, i hear someone say..oh by the end of the first year, i won the road champs for eastern province ....bon courage.

Originally Posted by limerickman

I'd say those 6 months must have been torture for you.

I know Mrs BRF likes to cycle as well - I imagine it wasn't a party either for the rest of your family, your not being able to cycle, eh ?

Originally Posted by philhudson

How do you use the bin liner method?