Assault on Fallujah - Justified?

Bikerman2004

It is not shite. It is bullshit. If Lim is so concerned for the 'defenseless' militants, he can follow the Marines around and provide care for the wounded militants. One dead militant is one less we have to worry about. We all know where Lim's sympathies lie.

Weisse Luft

What Marine with an IQ over unity would allow Lim to follow him? Bullshit, any Marine would have Lim on POINT.

Bikerman2004

That would mean that Lim would get sh..................

Weisse Luft

Only if the "peaceful freedom fighters" were to pull the trigger. Have Lim provide first aid.

limerickman

You are right, Carerra - it is a dirty war and we have seen this incident.
The problem is that this type of issue is symptomatic of inept, unprofessionalism commensurate with the US involvement in the planning, invasion and the winning of hearts and minds, throughout Iraq.
It's a shambles.

Guerilla warfare is dirty - of course the Merkins haven't got a clue about any of this.
But they compound their errors continually.

limerickman

Go back to your Kibbutz.

limerickman

My sympathies lie with the Iraqi people - that's where my sympathies lie ?
Where do your symapthies lie ?

I suppose I'll get another private message from you - explaining your political stance, which seems to run hot and cold, depending on which way the wind blows ?

Bikerman2004

Or I get one from you explaining your relationship with FredC. My sympathies lie with the American troops. Calling them cunts? Well Lim you can fuck off. You and Freddie could go back to that eurotrash website, no wait Freddie can't. He was kicked off that site. Seems he was up to some perfidious activities.

limerickman

Or how embarrassed you are at Weisse Luft's grasping Jewish arguments or how embarassed you are with the redneck conservatives such as Szbert, Iknowtest,Zapper etc ?

We can go on - if that's what you wanna do ?

Bikerman2004

Only embarassed at Szbert and Iknowtest. But you can lie if you choose. But that would only be 'gentlemanly' now wouldn't it? We can take this wherever you want to. If FredC considers you his friend, he definitely won't be needing any enemies.

limerickman

You decided to name names in the first instance - I simply returned the serve.

I am a liar, am I ?
Care to test this assumption ?
Are you attempting to deny what I have put to ya ?

The individuals concerned can mail me - privately - if they want to know about the comments made by you and whether or not I have lied.

You opened the can of worms and named names publicly.

Bikerman2004

They can if they want to. I can forward your comments to a certain individual as well. I could really careless.

limerickman

Ditto.

We'll see who lied.

pomod

Whew, bring in the firehoses.


Some good points before we fell off the wagon of discussion. I agree that in any combat situation tensions and emotions must surely run high. And, I agree that this is surely not an isolated incident but a common abuse likely perpetrated by both sides. it's not like there are refs in striped jerseys out there whistling foul which is why we need courageous journalists to report back in someway. This particular soldier got caught this time and should serve life in prison as any other murderer. The savages who have been up to the beheadings and kidnappings should also be tracked down and tried and serve the rest of their lives in prison. However, one point that seems obvious (and I anticipated such a response -- thanks for not letting me down Zapper et al) is this notion that that the entire city is filled with "insurgents" that they are all "terrorists" and get what they deserve. blah. blah, blah,. These terms are misleading and have been misleading the US public from the get go. What the hell is a “terrorist” anyway, someone who seeks to instill fear in a population through violence for political ends? (ahem, US policy in the middle east anyone?) Or, someone who takes up arms against an invading force. It's not exactly so black and white is it. Lets not forget that this war is a sham and had nothing to do with terrorism in the first place. Going into Iraq has only exasperated the animosity towards the US and quite frankly, sorry guys you deserve what you are getting. As Colin Powell said "You broke it , you've bought it" -- probably why he's happy to be going.