Discontent and Hate

Saucy

Actually I think you have been one of the more restrained posters around here. You communicate your view without name-calling and personal attacks. And usually with a good joke thrown in as well.

So, I am curious. Did you vote for Bush or are you a Republican? There has been a lot of post-election discussion in the media about the future of the Democratic party in recent days. But I think the far more interesting topic is the future of the Republican party.

Are you happy with the direction the republican party is taking i.e. taking on the moral agenda of evangelical christians? What about Bush's fiscal policies which are clearly not conservative?

I have to imagine that there are a lot of dissatisifed moderate republicans but they seem to be keeping quiet about it. Most of the grumbling I have heard is from fiscal conservatives but I think the social progressives of the party are going to come out of the woodwork in the next four years.

I am just curious as to the true feelings of bush supporters now that the election is over. I'm not sure if you identify yourself as republican or perhaps you are actually part of the evangelical base yourself?

keydates

You can't be right about any opinion. Yes, a broad majority may think that x thing is wrong (ie murder or slavery), but that still doesn't make it factually wrong. I don't know of any scientific way to prove such a thing. I'm not saying that I think that murder is okay, only that you can prove that maybe 99.9% of people believe that murder is wrong. Moral beliefs vary from person to person.

Philisophically, it's virtually impossible to prove anything to be true (yes, this is a tangent). For example, we, as humans, have come to believe that up is towards the sky, and down is towards the ground. We then extrapolate that since this true here, it must be true everywhere in the universe. But what about a planet in which gravity pulls to the side (yes, it is possible)? Say people live there. They might say that up is to (our) right, while down is to (our) left. Thus, they would believe those principles and say it's true for the entire universe.

I guess I'm just providing support to jhuskey's post/the famous elephant poem. "Truth is different depending on one's perception."

It's one thing though to stand up for what you believe in. It's another to just flame those who don't agree with you.

jhuskey

I am I guess a moderate conservative up to and including but not limited to the belief that a peraon should work their A** off for what they get and no particular group should be given special consideration or priveledge.
As far as morals I am not a Bible Thumper,so to speak, but do believe that some type of family unit is the basis of a solid society and no I am not limiting that to the "Norman Rockwell " version of the family vision.

I do like to look at history and take from the experience of our ancestors. Why not, they have already made the mistakes.
As far as my levity I suppose it is sometimes easier for me to communicate in that venue and besides I see humans as comical in their actions and I include myself in that analogy. We do some damn silly crap!
I truly believe if the Democratic party had submitted a more modereate candidate ,he would be headed to the White House ,besides I heard he threw the election because his wife thought the White House was actually just the guest house beacuse of its small size. That's a rich bitch joke.

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jhuskey

I certainly appreciate the kind comments. I attribute any success I have to the wonderful people in my life.
It is also said before enlightenment you must chop wood and carry water and after enlightenment chop wood and carry water. I personally take from this keep your expectations reasonable and don't take your self too seriously its a fight to the end and for those that don't appreciate the more esocertic rhetoric.
Grab life by the Ba**s and take a downhill slide!

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Whenever I can't get excited about riding I just fantasize about someone else's bike.

Hooben

The man who rides the american bike,
He is so quick to say,
The ride of my bike is tough and harsh,
American all the way,
The man who rides the carbon one,
He loves the ride it gives,
It's soft and lovely to his tush,
without it he cant live,
But the one who types instead of rides,
Thats a lad I can do without,
Don't listen and pay heed to him,
He's pale worn and out,
It's the man who rides his frame all day,
He would never type a lick,
I'll be there by his side today,
You can all just go to S***!

Poem written by my LBS pro,
An Irishman with an attitude.
Probably the only thing he will ever contribute to this site.
I can't stop laughing, by the way I love this website and I do
still manage to get in a lot of riding
...Hooben

jhuskey

There was a man of cycling skills, as the world had never seen
His arms and legs like tensioned springs
His torso hard and lean
He trained himself by winter night
He trained by rainy day
He rode his bike with great resolve
And past the months away
At last the time had finally come to pass the final test
He'd try his skills on race day
He knew he was the best
He rode into crowded scene with his hopes and head held high
This was the day of true reward
His strength would not deny
But when he took his entry form his hopes fell out of sight
Of all the skills he processed that day
He could not read nor write


Written this morning as I wait on breakfast and for the temp. to rise a little and then I will ride.

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jhuskey

Great observation, that this is a venue that can challenge one to read and understand or respond on various levels and be challenged to expand your skills and insight, and I use the term loosely in my case.

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Whenever I can't get excited about riding I just fantasize about someone else's bike.

Saucy

Seriously? That's a damn good poem!

Riding and writing are not mutually exclusive. We can do both. We should do both.

jhuskey

I have been told I had a knack for at least some form of verse since third grade, but I guess I didn't think it was cool enough to pursue study and development, but I try to entertain my co-workers with a variartion on Clement Moore every Christmas or if I see something that gives me an idea.

Besides I would have starved to death trying to write for a living.

But thank you for the praise.

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Whenever I can't get excited about riding I just fantasize about someone else's bike.

jhuskey

Everything! How many miles does it take?

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Whenever I can't get excited about riding I just fantasize about someone else's bike.

Ssushi

Iknowtest, you're not so much a big dog, more of a big prick - so maybe we shoulod expect to get arse f***ed instead of bitten.

limerickman

JHuskey - very impressive.
I like to read and your words of verse were very good.

One thing though - all the great writers starved !
At the very least, you'd be in good company, if you took that route.

limerickman

Maybe, Mr.Ullrich ought to pen a few words ?