USA in Iraq. whats your impression?

FredC

Dear Patch, I'm not a sensitive soul, and we all like a bit of knockabout slagging in this section. I'm just pointing out that the board would quickly descend into chaos if we all took to transposing posts, and eventually our section would get pulled by cyclingforums for persistant abuse of the protocol. I've seen it happen before when this type of thing spread like a rash. We can all have a pop at topics and ourselves without resorting to complete idiocy.

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patch70

It's really not terribly hard to read the post above to see the original posting.

davidmc

DAMASCUS, Syria, Dec. 28 — Syria is responding with a mixture of bravado and denial to mounting accusations by the United States and Iraq that it's a staging ground for the Iraqi insurgency with key support coming from a half brother of Saddam Hussein and Baath Party leaders here.
Damascus has accused Washington of making it a scapegoat for American failures to quell the fighting in Iraq — even as Syria moves to try and defuse tensions with the United States.
Syria's Foreign Minister Farouk al-Sharaa struck a defiant tone in an address at the annual meeting of leaders of the National Progressive Front — the country's highest ruling body — in the most extensive comments yet by a senior Syrian official on the subject.
''They accuse Syria of sending money and arms,'' he said, but the Iraqi people ''have plenty of money and arms and we are the ones who worry about the movement of arms from Iraq to Syria.''
The United States succeeded in occupying Iraq, ''but it has failed at everything else,'' Al-Sharaa said Monday. ''The problem is that the United States had thought it was making progress in Iraq. But it started to see a change in the past two months and therefore the campaign against Syria comes within the framework of the pressure the occupation forces in Iraq feel.''
President Bush has warned Syria and Iran — also accused of supporting the insurgency — that ''meddling in the internal affairs of Iraq is not in their interest.'' Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage is expected in Syria Sunday to discuss Iraq with Syrian officials.
Washington and Baghdad have for months been saying that Syria is allowing Islamic militants bent on fighting U.S.-led coalition forces and the Iraqi interim government to cross the border into Iraq. Unlimited funds for the insurgency also are thought to come from Syria, as well as from Saudi Arabia and Iran, according to U.S. officials.
A State Department spokesman said Tuesday that Syrian officials ''have done some things with respect to the border and working with the Iraqis to control the border.''
But ''the continued presence of former regime elements in Syria who are working, we believe, to the detriment of Iraq and in support of the insurgency is a problem that we think Syria needs to act to stop,'' added State Department deputy spokesman Adam Ereli.
The suspicions of outside support for militants in Iraq has strained the uneasy relationship between Syria and the United States, who have long differed over the Arab-Israeli conflict. A few months ago, Washington imposed sanctions on Syria under an act that accuses Damascus of seeking weapons of mass destruction and hosting Palestinian groups Washington deems terrorist.
Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi also has stepped up criticism of Damascus, saying he had ''adequate and accurate information'' about Iraqis planning attacks from Syria.
In an interview with Radio Sawa, Allawi said Monday that he has sent a letter to Syrian President Bashar Assad asking the Syrian authorities to hand over ''wanted elements and those accused of planning and executing'' attacks to Iraqi authorities.
Asked whether he believes there's a link between terrorist groups in Syria and groups such as al-Qaida in Iraq and Ansar al-Islam, Allawi said ''for sure there are communications among all those terrorists, which part of its leadership is living in Syria. ... However, we don't know if Syria is playing a role and I hope it doesn't.''
Qassem Dawoud, Iraq's national security adviser, called on Syria to turn in former Baathists who are helping insurgents in remarks published Tuesday in Kuwait's Al-Rai Al-Aam daily.
He said the Iraqi interim government has evidence that Sabaawi al-Hassan, a half brother of Saddam, and leading Baathist Younis al-Ahmed are supporting the insurgency from Syria.
Dawoud said Iraq will officially ask Damascus to hand in these ''criminals'' and he hoped Syria would respond positively so Baghdad wouldn't ''have to go to international organizations'' to extradite them. Dawoud said Islamic extremists make up some 15 percent of militants operating in Iraq, claiming most of them come through Syria.
Ghaleb al-Jazaeri, the police commander in Iraq's Shiite holy city of Najaf, said Saturday that an Iraqi had confessed to receiving training in a camp in Syria under the supervision of a Syrian military officer — a claim the Syrians denied.
In response to the stream of accusations, Syria has gone out of its way to try to demonstrate its innocence. Last month, it took journalists on an unusual tour of a section of its 380-mile border with Iraq, showing them bulldozers making a 4-yard-high barrier along the frontier and saying they were using round-the-clock patrols and new observation posts to try to stop foreign fighters from getting into Iraq.
Syria has also held talks with a U.S.-led coalition military delegation on the matter and is discussing with Baghdad what do to about Iraq money frozen from the Saddam regime — estimated at $261 million stashed in Syrian banks.

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FredC

Nothing new again, over the years the USA and Israel have accused Syria of everthing, and have never proved anything. If they had so, surely they would have a caused a lot of damage and destruction. American very small scrotums again from the castrated raspberry blowers. Why not go over and do in Syria?

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darkboong

You would be an idiot to buy that one given the administration's record of bait and switch. Not as if they have their house in order either... Come to think of it, what happened to the claimed WMD haul found in Jordan all those months ago ? Was that another bit of fabrication to distract attention away from the outrages going on in Iraq ?



I strongly doubt that either Iran or Syria want a bloodbath on their doorstep. PNAC and their Zionist forebears have explicitly stated that they do want Iraq in a state of bloodbath, plenty of meat for a more convincing story there.



Interesting phrasing, it implies that Syria is guilty, but where's the evidence ? All we see are accusations from an outfit that is a front for the Whitehouse... Let's face it the Whitehouse lie so often they probably have to ask what day of the week it is.
That doesn't lend much credibility to the guy doing the accusation here, his ass is toast if the Whitehouse decide that he's not served them well enough.



Did that confession come before or after a dose of rape, beating and humiliation at the hands of some coalition troops ? Or was the threat of being sent to Abu Gharaib used instead ?