BUSH yes or no

ryan_velo

Theres no way in my right mind I would support bush. every thing the bush administration stands for is wrong. I really hate bush, I really really do. I think about half the country can back me on that. I seem to think about it alot, I cant seem to get around it. I am liberal at heart, I support the gays, and when I think of bush i think of all those dumbass redneck buying their hunting licences I saw last night at walmart. Half of the people there were wearing camo. And I think of those dumass country singers that sing these really shity songs. You know, I think about the good ole boys, who naturally spport bush. I personally would rather hear bob dylan. Liberals and democrats seem to make more sense and be more rational. They handle things better. And they probably wouldt invade an intire country and kill over 100,000 civillions for the oil, and say they are fighting a war against terror. In four years I will have to sing up for the draft. The draft might also be re-enstateed in four years. I beleive then I might have to leave those wall mart rednecks, and the good ole red white and blue for canada, where people arent so damm ignorant and close minded. And where I wont have to go be killed in iraq. This might sound unlikely, but you never know.

fixit

When you go to Canada instead of going to the military, you would have to go to jail if you go back to the US, right? For how long would you have to go to jail?

Carrera

I hate to sound unpatriotic but I'd do the same as you if there was a call-up. The truth is war veterans have a history of being treated like dirt in their own backyard after having risked their neck overseas for self-serving politicians. Rambo might not be so far off the mark.
My grandfather fought in the trenches and died some years back at 82 years old. Much of the money that should have beem invested in the welfare of such retired veterans ended up elsewhere. I mean, sure, I hate Bush as much as you do but it's also ridiculous the U.K. Government awarded large sums of money to a group of hijackers who came over here and claimed political asylum. These people had actually taken a plane hostage, forced it to land in Moscow and then re-scheduled the flight to London. After claiming asylum, they were awarded cash pay-outs from the government and allowed to stay. The U.K. war vets, on the other hand, get the lowest pension in Europe.
Dozens of these Islamic radicals who are bent on the destruction of the west have been educated in London at taxpayers expense. So, I think if Bush and Blair were really serious in their war on terror, they could look closer to home instead of getting bogged down in Iraq.
I know many moslem people who are perfectly O.K., educated and hard-working. However, we shouldn't be funding these Jihadis who so often milk the system over here and then start a holy-war in other countries.

ryan_velo

what are you talkig about? is it illegal to move to another country?

limerickman

Not a question of "if" there is going to a draft - it's a question of "when" there is going to be a draft.

The much vaunted coalition of the willing - aren't going to supply cannon fodder to the Merkins.

Bush's "staunch" allies like Poland have set a withdrawal date.

The Iraqi Army (poor souls who out of economic need, have to earn a wage, thus they join a discredited Iraqi army) are deserting in droves.

Bliar is being roasted over the blood sacrifice of the Black Watch (5 of which have been killed in the 14 days since they moved to the Sunni Triangle to help the Merkins) : so the British public will not tolerate any more deaths.

So where can the cannon fodder required, be sourced from ?
Looks like the migration northwards will commence in earnest - and soon.

Saucy

Good for you, Ryan! I admire that you are taking a stance at such a young age. And being from Kentucky it can't be easy being a liberal.

I don't think there will be a draft. It would be political suicide. Bush is an idiot but he has very good political instincts. If things get to a point where a draft would be necessary, I think that the US will withdraw or contain its military initiatives.

Saucy

Well, there is no telling what insanity Bush is capable of, so I could be wrong. I just don't think the American public is actually willing to accept a draft. There are too many people opposed to the war.

If they have a draft, I propose that they draft from the red states first. Those arseholes voted for him, now they can live (or die) with the consequences.

ryan_velo

invade a country for oil and kill the civilians. .........damn liberals?.....well I say godamm those conservatives, they suck. You just dont kill arabs cause u dont like them. I mean jesus dude, thats pretty redneck. You think to simple mindedly. I hate bush, I hate bush, I fear and hate bush. I have a t shirt that shows george bush as bevis and butthead as don rumsfeld saying ''he he he....lets start a war......he he he"

ryan_velo

oh yea, FUCK THE RED STATES!!!!!!!!!

Saucy

Oops. I meant to say that they should draft from the red states first, except for Kentucky, home of ryan velo.

I like your attitude, kid. You should run for office someday.

This should be the draft order:

1) So-called christian* evangelicals who voted for Bush.
2) Ann Coulter
3) Red staters who voted for Bush.
4) Ralph Novak
5) The Bush daughters
6) Blue staters who voted for Bush.
7) George Bush
8) Ahnuld. Seriously I think he would kick ass.
9) Jerry Falwell
10) Dick Cheney's daughter


* not really christians because they do not in actuality practice christian values but instead use the Bible to be bigoted assholes and spread intolerance and hate.

ryan_velo

I got a baaaad feelin about this war. It could turn out to be, in a way, the next nam. I mean if we really are going to stay in there till we "get the job done" then were gona be in there for a long time, re-enstate the draft, then eventually have to give up. In the process having killed alot of our troops, all those recuorces and money and lives waisted, all the carnnage over nothing. Unless we get a democrat in office that will turn the country around in four years. Having bush in office has just bruoght this country down so much, we are suposed to be figering out other sources of energy instead of iol and fossile fules. But noooo, its all about the money these rich oil pricks like bush are makeing. I sure do miss the clinton years, this country was doing so good and he did so many great things. I love clinton, he is a brilliant man. He is a very intellegint man, and I for one admire him. But n politician is perfect of course. Like when he dropped a bomb on that medicene factory and a bunch of people died because they couldnt get their medicine. As a matter of factly, id say every human being has his/her flaws.

ryan_velo

and what are your recuorces? FOX NEWS? I try to listen to news that makes sense. Like npr [national public radio] cuz every time i wach fox news it makes me want to slap somebody. FAIR AND BALLANCED NEWS MY ASS!!!

limerickman

Hmm.
You do fit the old "cannon fodder profile" - willing to accept orders regardless of the issues.

Perhaps you'll get drafted (sorry enlisted !) to fight the war for WMD (which
never existed) against terrorists in Iraq hell bent on attacking the USA (which never existed), against stockpiles of bioological weapons (which never existed - now that we're on the subject - remember all those envelopes with white
powder in them, sent to the Senate/Congress immediately after 9/11 - did they get anyone for that ?).

I tell you about the cannon fodder - when there is a murder in Ireland, the Gardi Siochana (Police, in english) investigate.
The first question asked by them - when they arrest a suspect (and to arrest a suspect, they need a judicial order to do so, in a capital crimes cases), is
have you ever served with the armed forces here or abroad ?

Turns out that statistically, members of the military are the most susceptible
to committing murder.

ryan_velo

And no its not easy to be liberal in ky. You would have no idea how much ridicule I get every day for what I think is right. I even got into an argument with my history that gays where not 'evil' and that you can choose your sexual orientation. He said QUOTE"you are shuving this bogus theory down my throat! there is no proof!"UN QUOTE I just shook my head. Then the next day he said I hurt his feelings and that I should apoligize.I wish i could have said, "hey, fuck you buddy, it is a "theory" that has been around since ancient times, since as long as liveing things that could fuck has existed! It is a "theory" that does not have to even be thought about cuz you dont have to, its just there. And when did you choose your sexual orientation mister goodrid? If you cant figer this out you dont need to be my history teahcer for christ sakes, because you are severly full of shit and so close minded and ignorant it's not even funny!"

John kerry has stood up for what he beleived i all his life, and god bless him. I thank him for running, it was soo damn close, and he did not let us down. It takes character to graciuosly give that son of a bush victorry like that. God bless him.