BUSH yes or no

ryan_velo

I like sen. McCain, He doesnt agree wth bush's policies but yet he still supports him???

davidmc

He claims he supports the "party" no matter who the nominee but, supporting bush especially since bush set his attack dog's on McCain in s. Carolina in the 2000 election, makes him look like a patsy to me, even though i know he is a man to be admired for his sacrifices- during 'Nam- like Kerry, not like bush. the republican smear campaign "savaged" McCain in the 2000 race- (McCain, who as a Navy pilot was shot down during the Vietnam War and spent 5.5 years as a prisoner of war, complained in the debate that Bush had not apologized, and called the move "shameful." The smear campaign, perpetrated against McCain & McCain's endorsement of bush in '04 were both heinous acts in their own rights.

davidmc

Words of wisdom, ryan_velo, words of wisdom, although that could apply to the left also, to a much lesser extent. Did i mention-to a much lesser extent?You're pretty smart for a guy your age. You come up w/ very good material. Sometimes, i feel like i could be a moderate, after reading some of your post's; then i come back to reality & realize that I'm a true blue, dyed in the wool, left leaning, progressive. It would seem to me that many repub's believe that everyone comes into this world on an equal footing which is, in fact, not the case. If one is born & doesn't happen to have white skin, is missing a limb or two, or has mental issues, the repub's would have us believe that everyone should "fend for themselves" along the lines of darwins theory. In an anarchy that would be fine but then the repub's material posessions would not be safe from pilfering in a system or rather non-system as anarchy. I get the feeling that most, if not all, extremely right-wing poster's here are white, financially well off & have the use of all of their limbs & mental capacities. If there is a repub who makes < 20k(American)/ year, please, for your own sake, speak up. Now i will sit back & wait for the torrent of poor or non-white or physically or mentally disabled or all three, responders who ascribe themselves to the Republican party. One at a time now so all of these people can respond.

davidmc

No, I'm saying that some repub's would like the populace to believe that everyone comes into this world equally & the only thing one has to have is "elbow grease" to get ahead & I'm saying that's not the case. Some come into the world mentally or physically disabled, non-white, non-Christian & un-rich (to use bush's phraseology) They are not on an equal playing field & the some of the repub's are saying what is tantamount to instituting "Darwin's theory" of the strongest will survive; which they won't say-outright, except to do that (anarchy) would imperil/endanger their material wealth. So they have to legislatively marginalize the less affluent through bills such as "national sales tax" or "flat tax" initiatives under the rubric of fairness when, in fact, it is anything but fair!!!.
Incidentally, cool VT avatar. I sent it to my brother. He went there.

jhuskey

["Darwin's theory" of the strongest will survive; which they won't say-outright, except to do that (anarchy) would imperil/endanger their material wealth. So they have to legislatively marginalize the less affluent through bills such as "national sales tax" or "flat tax" initiatives under the rubric of fairness when, in fact, it is anything but fair!!!.

Careful, you will set yourself up top be a "Creationist"

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davidmc

You mis-read me. Republicans live by darwins theory yet, yell creationism in the public square to garner votes. I am an evolutionist, & have stated as much in the past, but what seperates us from non-humans is our ability to render assistance to the less fortunate. The republicans will only do this under the umbrella of christian charity (faith based programs on the gov't gravy train) which is offensive to non-beleivers (people who think & don't ascribe all happenings to divine intervention.) & offensive/repugnant to people of other faiths-muslims for instance.

jhuskey

I do believe in charity but also believe in capitolism as in, an individuals right to excel at his or hers highest ability level and be rewarded for it.
I do not believe in sharing the wealth without limits, so to speak,but yes help the less fortunate but not to the level of giving ,any and I do mean any, group or segment of individual rights that exceed their highest efforts and that exceed others rights.
I did not say results,but efforts.
We all need help sometime in our lives.

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ryan_velo

"Colled", Oh do you mean called? How dare you have the oudasity to attack me, and call me dumb, I geuss that explains my A average doesnt it? After making a spelling mistake your slef! Im sory man geez, this is just a forum. My posts are not going to be perfect! And as far as not being a sportsman, while doing the things I love, [fishing hunting] arent we all true sportsman? Isnt this where we forget about politics, money, work, school, and take in your suroundings, and just enjoy what where doing? after all, a bad day on the water is better than a good day in the office, right? And as far as the separation of church and state, I support it. but there have been things, like the declaration of independince and our currency that I accept and that have been there ever since this country has been around. It's george bush saying that he is born again and useing this to get votes from bron again amererica, the "51%" well not all but in general, religious people who just natuarlly lean twords the republican party I have a problem with. There is no utopia of any thing, wether it be a political party or what ever, nothing is perfect. Every one that is liberal will not all think the same and agree on every subject. It's what the democratic party and being socaly liberal stand for that I truly beleve in.

Thank you sir, and good day.

And oh yea, fuck you buddy, michel moore is a much more intelligent man than you are and I hope I spelled oudasity right!

ryan_velo

If you "brand" us why cant we "brand" you? Like calling us treehugers Bah! humbug!

ryan_velo

I saw a bumper sticker that show dubya saying "i beleive the humans and the fishes can co-exist peacefully"