How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?

EoinC

Frankly, yes. My wife was bludgeoned by an attacker about 2 years ago. He tried to kill her, but his 4 x 2 piece of wood broke. She got away, the Police caught him and he went to jail. He had no recollection of the event. When he first hit her, she didn't see him coming. If he had had a gun, she would probably be dead. If she had a gun, she would probably be dead. I am glad that neither of them had guns.
Nobody is.

artemidorus

Being ignorant of the facts always helps in a debate, doesn't it?
The carrying of handguns, concealed or otherwise, has been illegal in Australia for many decades, if not over a century. In 1996, semi-automatic rifles and shotguns were banned. Few were used in crimes before that. The legislation was passed in response to a number of infamous large-scale massacres; none have occurred since the passage of the legislation. No-one expected the legislation to have a big effect on smaller-scale armed crimes.
It's spurious to compare Australia with the US, which does not qualify as a Western/civilised country on this index, at least. Please peruse http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/vda/vda-sec04.html
and look at figures 2,3 and 6.
And don't bother listening to the NRA, Charlton Heston used to do all their stats and now no-one does any.

EX2

I still cannot understand why these people are carring guns on there bikes. You say for protection with exception of southwind (sorry to hear about that mate) not many of you others sound like you have been attacked. And if some one came at me with a gun or a knife wanting to steal my bike i would give it to them it may be worth alot of money but that is why its insured.
Sorry to say it guys but your not painting a very nice picture of your country.

Still what would i know im just a shit kicking bitter drinking Yorkshire man.

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EoinC

Nothing wrong with drinking Bitter. If god had wanted alcohol to be sweet, he / she would have made Milo amber-coloured and given it a head.

szbert

Kahr PM9 in my jersey pocket.

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mitosis

Good on you. I was looking for a source to refute the figures on gun related violence in Australia.

mitosis

Pro-gun/anti-abortion? You are confused.

artemidorus

(about Australian crime rates)

I don't think so: see attached graph.

Reference: http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@...7D00002650?Open

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southwind

teton explorer

Just to be clear, I made a post on this thread a while back stating that I carried a gun when I rode . . . in the worst part of I was kidding. I join in ccurry's apology to the civilized world. If you need a gun where you ride, ride somewhere else. But turning a bike ride into a "Dirty Harry" movie is just f____ing ridiculous.

mitosis

Yeah, they've actually gone down from 1990 to 2001.

cbjesseeNH

Whether one SHOULD carry a gun in the USA while biking is certainly debatable. Whether one CAN carrry a gun while biking, for the vast majority of US citizens, is not debatable. It's a right.

The debate is either an academic question in many places in the world (UK, Australia, etc.) or a practical question pondered by criminals in those places. In general, it's the law-abiding citizen who obeys the law and the criminal who breaks it. So the bad guys more often opt to carry a gun where banned than do the good guys.

Hence, only bad guys have guns in "civilized" places while uncivilized guys (like me, I guess) have guns in other places.

The social experiment of gun bans continues to fail, but the test period keeps being extended by the banners as they wait for the crime to abate.

mikado

Hello

My 2 cents and my apologies for contributing to this misplaced thread.
If carrying a weapon was really about self protection, they are hundreads companies around the world putting billion in non lethal 'defensive' weapons. Even if most of them are portable torture tools, they are supposed not to kill a healthy adult, but efficently set him unable to make any harm.

Why choose a device that would kill then ? why if its not a miserable lack of respect to human life ? This thread gives me the puke. You put human life at the same level as dogs ?

My honoust opinion is that someone who feels the urge to carry because of the fear to be mugged, is as dangerous as the muggler themselves. Once you carry, you are a lethal weapon yourself. I won't throw numbers cause they often say what you want them to say, but i'm sure the greatest parts of homicides, in the us as in all 'in peace' countries, is between relatives and people who knows each others. So the theory that gun control won't affect gun violence is a LIE. Law abiding citizen sometimes do get crazy, and then they have enormous firepower to kill whoever in range. Killing someone with his own hands is a WHOLE different story.
And again, the self protection argument is tore apart cause you can carry non lethal weapons.

So my point is people carrying guns are wanna be murderers. So go in hell !

mika

EoinC

Which experiment are you speaking of? Please provide details.