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You may find it interesting that I have lived in the U.S. for 27 of my 30 years, and in 7 different states, and I was honestly *completely* shocked when I read this thread to learn that people actually carry guns when they ride a bike. While it certainly must be an issue if so many people here are talking about it (and I'm not trying to downplay it), don't think that the entire country over here is running around with guns. It's just not the case. Sure there are bad areas here that I avoid in darkness, but I felt similar about some areas close to where I lived when I spent 3 years in Europe. I have NEVER felt the slightest inclination to carry a gun. Despite the fact that I'm in an occupation in which I handle various weapon systems regularly and am comfortable with them, I have never felt like I needed anything for protection in my personal life. As I said, everyone has different experiences and I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong in their given situation, I just want to point out that it is certainly NOT the "wild-west" everywhere over here. |
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Yes, I was riding alone on a two-lane 55 mph road. The car came up from behind me so I didn't see it coming. After it passed me a guy was hanging out of the passenger window displaying the rifle looking back at me. Had I been in a pack I doubt they would have shot, knowing the chances of someone identifying their plate number would increase. I had turned around and looked down at my back wheel and by the time I looked up again the car was far enough ahead I couldn't read the license plate. |
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I work in the management of Offshore Drilling Rigs and my Texan co-workers here keep putting magazines like "Combat Handgun" (containing articles such as "Summertime Concealed Carry" - I never realised that Handguns had fashion seasons) amongst the Drilling periodicals on the waiting area coffee table at our office so that, if clients or contractors have some time to spare before their appointment, they can choose between reading about drilling technology updates or reading about how to pick a weapon which will cause maximum damage, but still fit in the inside pocket of a sport jacket. This ethos seems very strange (actually 'foreign') when encountered here in Malaysia, a Country with very few crimes committed involving the use of firearms, and is commented on by the local staff. They ask me "Why would you want to carry a gun?" I tell them that I don't know. Again, I'm not trying to be facetious or disparaging. I just find the concept of considering carrying a weapon when cycling a disturbingly alien one. |
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Another good option: Kramer Confidant Shirt Holster at http://www.kramerleather.com
Serves as a base layer too. Not quick on the draw but deep cover. A little can of OC advised as well. All predators may not be 2-legged ... (anti-gun nuts, please feel free to express continued shock and awe below) ![]() |
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don't shoot to kill... shoot out the tires so that the punks who shot the paintballs are there when the cops arrive; because they would have been contacted by your other neccessary tool... a cellphone.
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So what is the gun for? |
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Or anywhere else in day to day life. ![]() |
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From the NRA: "Australia saw its violent crime rates soar after its 1996 gun control measures banned most firearms. Violent crime rates averaged 32% higher in the six years after the law was passed than they did the year before the law went into effect. Murder and manslaughter rates remained unchanged, but armed robbery rates increased 74%, aggravated assaults by 32%. Australia's violent crime rate is also now double America's."
From Australia: "Although Dr. Adam Graycar, director of the Australian Institute of Criminology, calls the NRA's figures misleading, he admitted in an interview with the Associated Press Tuesday that assaults in his country had indeed climbed but added that "most attacks did not involve guns." Graycar also said homicides had decreased and rarely involved firearms." I guess being stabbed, budgeoned or beaten is preferred to being shot by a gun down-under. I'm not partial to any such treatment. ![]() |
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yup i carry a 45
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What is the NRA? |
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I plan to mount a guided missile system on my aerobars. Such a deterrent will make me impossible to harrass and will comfort my soul. If only everyone would do it, the world would be so much safer.
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Do you think the State and Federal Police Forces maybe prefer it now that less of the attacks involve firearms? As a person who was living in Australia before, during and after the instigation of the new legislation, I did not have a problem with it. I doubt if there is anyone in Australia who packs heat when riding and, having ridden in quite a few of Australia's cities, I have never felt the need to carry any form of weapon. Perhaps Australia just hasn't reached the stage where it is civilized enough for everyone to need to go around carrying weapons? If that's the case, uncivilized suits me. |
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Are you saying that if you were carrying a gun, this would not have happened? And if it did still happen while carrying a gun, what could you do about it? Could you pull your gun fast enough to get off a shot before the car was out of range? I don't think so! But, for arguement sake, lets say you do get off a shot and hit the car. Then what? Do you hide in the ditch, pull out your cell phone and call for help? Do you keep riding while the car circles around to come up behind you again. This time it won't be a can in the back, it will be you under the wheels. BUT, as you lay dying on the road, you can take comfort in knowing your gun is with you. |
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