How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?

CAMPYBOB

You libtard fellows sound all butthurt. I know just the cure! A good old American Bike 'n Shoot!

http://www.bikenshoot.com/

Be sure and specify which caliber handgun you'll be bringing!








I'm sure Ben would approve!

dhk2

OK, thanks to y'all for explaining the word....was puzzling about the meaning and source of that one. We don't go in much for cockney rhyming slang here in the South.
Proves again we're two countries seperated only by a common language

Bro Deal

"Never trust a loon with a gun" -- Thomas Jefferson.

This quote is sometimes dated as 1797 and often listed as unsourced or mis-attributed. I'd say it sounds exactly like something Jefferson said. He knew more than a little about crazies with guns.

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cbjesseeNH

2 Trail Users Attacked Near Busy Retail Area
Midday Robberies Unusual, Police Say

By Katherine Shaver
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 1, 2008; B02

Montgomery County police are investigating two robberies and assaults last week on walkers along a popular hiking and biking path near downtown Bethesda's shopping and entertainment district.

Police said two men were attacked but not seriously injured in separate incidents Thursday and Friday. Detectives are investigating similar descriptions of suspects in both cases, as well as common times and locations, police said. No weapons were seen in either attack, police said.
Both occurred during midday on the Georgetown Branch Trail, a future extension of the Capital Crescent Trail between Bethesda and Silver Spring. The walkers said they were just east of an 800-foot-long tunnel that runs beneath Wisconsin Avenue and connects the trail to Woodmont Avenue, near Barnes & Noble and the Bethesda Row shops, offices and restaurants.

Violent attacks are almost unheard of on the tree-lined, gravel path that runs past residential fences in Chevy Chase and East Bethesda. It is used by an estimated 10,000 cyclists, joggers and stroller-pushing walkers every week, according to the Coalition for the Capital Crescent Trail, a volunteer group supporting the trail.

Russ Hamill, commander of the Bethesda police district, said trail-related problems usually involve arguments between cyclists and slower-moving walkers.

"For us, this is very uncommon," Hamill said. "Detectives are working this case very hard. . . . Setting aside these two attacks last week, the trail is still a safe area."

Still, Hamill said, because of the violent nature of the assaults, police have stepped up patrols in the area.

The first attack occurred at 1:55 p.m. Thursday, when a 50-year-old Olney man who works in Bethesda told police he was walking on the trail just east of the tunnel, near Elm Street Park. Two teenagers, both 14 to 16 years old, knocked the man down from behind, struck him while he was on the ground and demanded money, police said. The teenagers ran away through the tunnel, toward Woodmont, with $20 and a cellphone, the man told police.

The next day, a 17-year-old Bethesda youth said he was walking west toward the tunnel about 1:30 p.m. when he passed three men he didn't know standing along the trail. Shortly after, police said, he was hit on the cheek and told to get on the ground.

He was struck again on the cheek while at least one of the attackers frisked him, the youth told police. The suspects took $13, a school ID, driver's license, iPod and cellphone before running into the tunnel toward Woodmont, police said. The ages of those three suspects weren't available, police said.

Ernie Brooks, a board member of the trail coalition, said that although graffiti and other vandalism have been problems in the tunnel since it opened in 1998, he hadn't heard of any attacks there.

"Hopefully this is just an aberration and not something that will become a problem," he said.

Police recommended using the path in pairs and not wearing headphones.

cbjesseeNH

Police: 2 Robbed At Gun Point On Bike Path

Robbery Occurred Early Wednesday


UPDATED: 8:18 pm CDT October 8, 2008

MADISON, Wis. -- A 22-year-old University of Wisconsin staff member and a 24-year-old UW student were walking on a bike path near Charter and Spring streets when a male approached them, robbing them by gunpoint early Wednesday.

He showed a handgun to the two men, before one took off running -- the robber chased him and stole money from his wallet, WISC-TV reported.

The suspect then jumped into the passenger side of a car.

A sketch of the suspect released by the police list the suspect as a black male, 6 feet to 6 feet, 2 inches tall, more than 200 pounds, and was wearing a dark blue hooded sweatshirt and pants and a baseball cap with the letters NY on it. The sketch appears similar to at least one of the three suspects identified in other campus area robberies, WISC-TV reported.

Police said it's possible the armed robbery in the UW area is connected to a string of other campus area robberies.

"We've had an ongoing concern about some of the robberies we've been seeing taking place generally in campus area sort of near Regent Street," said Joel DeSpain, public information officer for the Madison Police Department.

"Certainly this one that took place this morning fits the general pattern and in that we have a black male with a handgun."

Neither victim was injured.

Anyone with information is urged to call Madison Area Crime Stoppers at 608-266-6014

tonyzackery

Cherry-picking the gloom and doom stories, are we??? All the more justification to carry a concealed weapon, right???

It appears it just isn't safe to go outside one's door anymore...better yet, you should carry your gun even while in your house because you know burglars will break and enter...gotta be prepared for just in case...

Gun manufacturers just love this mentality...as do conservatives...

Living in fear must be somewhat paralyzing...

cbjesseeNH

As usual.

The anti-gunners demand data and sources from those that object to their emotional hand-wringing over firearms.

Then they reject any data and sources provided, and fail to provide any themselves.

The anti-gunner's logic::

I'll make a claim. You provide data/sources to refute my claim. I'll reject your data/sources and insult you. I win!! And I didn't even have to do any work!!

Works great on a blog/forum, but not in reality. The US has progressed from 9 states in 1986 to 40 states in 2006 where CCW is liberal. Over 2/3 of the US population can legally own and carry a gun if desired.

Concealed carry isn't paralyzing - it's walking, driving, running, cycling with a gun.

tonyzackery

LOL! Nice try! You can try and pooh-pooh all you want, but to live in fear is paralyzing; irrespective of your statistics and gloom and doom stories to justify your paranoia...

I don't need easily manipulated stats to justify my not needing to carry a handgun while cycling...check, and mate...

cbjesseeNH

Certainly! Never let facts, statistics and experts sway your feelings and beliefs about anything. Heck, if you relied on anything other than your gut-feel, I might be able to offer some counter-evidence and demonstrate you wrong. Wouldn't want that now, eh? Stay on the safe ground - take polls and accept opinions from only those that agree with you.

So yes, you have fully justified your personal opinion to yourself - you win on that point.

dhk2

Yeah, our nation has really made progress in the new millenium. I'm sure NRA's progress in liberalizing concealed carry laws really impresses the OZ readers and rest of the world who were looking at america for moral and economic leadership before we brought down the world's financial systems.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but as a proud american, I'd like to have something better to brag about other than my right (and need) to own deadly weapons. After all, isn't our murder rate many times higher than Aus, UK, and most of the rest of the developed world?

alienator

I'm with you, but then the American gun fetish goes right along with our love of war, our propensity for starting wars, our export of violence and war making materiel to other countries, and our curious way of spreading democracy, i.e by killing tens of thousands of people in an effort to "liberate" them.....as well as their oil supply.

Of all the first world countries, we are the one that seems to be de-evolving, and we are the one country populated with people overcome with fear, people who live by the mantra "ain't no one takin' what's mine, and I knows that there are lots o' people that be eyein' my stuff and wantin' to take it. I'z gonna kill 'em if I catches eye'n my shit too much or tryin' to touch my white womenz."

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The faces of the NRA and the Joe West Get a Nut over Your Gun Fanclub:




You don't even want to see pictures from their weekly Pinochle and Pederasty Night.

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CAMPYBOB

Sorry for the sarcasm, but as a proud american, I'd like to have something better to brag about other than my right (and need) to own deadly weapons.


ok, dhk...how about bragging about this: you're fortunate enough to live in the most free country on the planet.

there's a big price tag that comes with that freedom. it's the responsibility to defend it.

if folks prefer less freedom in trade for more security, there's always australia or someplace similar.

tonyzackery

Obviously you're the kind that needs to be told what to do...You pro-gun folks are interesting to study - your use of statistics and gloom and doom stories as irrefutable proof that the sky is falling and we all need to have a gun in our breast pocket to be ready for the armageddon tomorrow...

What is it really that you believe your statistics prove? That I'm a silly granola eater for walking around without a concealed weapon? That I'm an impending robbery victim if I'm not carrying a gun? What is the point you're attempting to make by posting stories of crime on a forum thread?

Hey, for a real hoot why don't you search and post stories of the random acts of kindness that occur around the world? What, you say you wouldn't find any? Is that because you haven't considered that gloom and doom news sells, and acts of kindness are taken for granted and aren't newsworthy? Oh, I guess you're just one of the many that have bought into the notion that everything going on outside your front door is nothing but gloom and doom...so sorry...

And let me clear up some more lingering confusion for you - I am not anti-gun; I am anti carrying a concealed deadly weapon while cycling. Is that clear enough for you?

Lastly, my instincts (appears you know nothing of these as you seem to rely on stats) tell me to end this waste-of-time dialogue with you as you believe what you believe - more power to you. You can have the last word as I know your ego needs it...