How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?

kdelong

Glad I don't live in your town!

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Frigo's Luggage

So, Vader is correct that your desire to carry a gun is motivated by fear? Why are you afraid?

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kdelong

Small minds Joe. Don't waste your time talking to the sheeple. You'll never change their way of following......I mean "thinking". It is a typical liberal ploy. When they no longer have any valid arguments, they begin asking simple questions in order to either discredit or humiliate those who hold an opposing viewpoint. This discourse between you, Mr. Vader, and Mr. Luggage has reached a point where no good can come from answering them, so lets just forget about them, enjoy our guns, and our freedom to protect our own lives and those of our loved ones instead of relying upon the nanny state to take care of our mortal remains....uh....I mean "protect us".

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Joe West

True words indeed... thanks for the feedback.

I find it heartning that the highest court in America sided with you and I... and millions of other Americans who always knew that the framers of our consitution meant for each of us to have the individual right to carry a firearm just as we have the individual right to free speech.

We are free... and hopefully the now unconstitutional anti-firearms laws in this country will begin to tumble down like an ill-built house of cards.

It sure feels nice to be vindicated

By the way... the pro-freedom Americans who are reading this should begin to help fund the lawyers from the National Rifle Association, Gun Owners of America, and the like... they will be spending a great deal of money to turn back anti-firearms laws and donations/memberships will be an important source of funding. The tide is turning... lets do everything we can to keep the causes of freedom moving forward.

Joe

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Frigo's Luggage

Has your neighbor ever been shot on your front steps? Vade'rs neighbor has.

Ignoring his questions is just cowardice. Are you afraid that you don't have intelligent answers for them? If so, lets hear them.

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Frigo's Luggage

I take it that you want to make sure that we American citizens have freedom, right? Do you think we should be free to burn the flag?

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kdelong

If Vader's neighbor had been armed, he might not have been shot on Vader's front steps. I know that I was armed, thankfully, when I needed to be (see post #2155).

As for seeing someone shot, yes, I have. I served in the US Military and lost close friends to firearms. I have had my share of holding a buddy who is dying. Don't give me any of your bullshit about how ignoring someone's question is cowardice! No, my friend, there is no fear here. I have preserved our freedom, my life, and the lives of those that I love with firearms. Had it not been for the Second Amendment, I most probably would not be here today, and you probably would not either. So, as far as I am concerned, gun ownership by law abiding, responsible private citizens is a good thing and I seroiusly doubt that you could ever change my mind. End of discussion!

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kdelong

Burn the flag if you want to, you are free to do so. It is only a symbol, probably made in China anyway. As a matter of fact, I think that there should be a law that a flag must be burned shortly after being displayed so that it would not be an issue. Anyway, if you choose to burn the flag, you must bear the consequences(it makes some people very angry), so you probably should have a gun with you when you set it on fire.

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Frigo's Luggage

Did the guy that broke into your house have a gun?

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mitosis

But I'm right aren't I.

CAMPYBOB

Did the guy that broke into your house have a gun?

WTF difference does it make?!?!

You break into a house that doesn't belong to you, there's a damn good chance you'll end up with a sucking chest wound.

Stupid SHOULD hurt.

Frigo's Luggage

Look. I've owned guns. My family owns lots of guns. I understand hunting and claybirds and all that shit.

I get pissed off at people that think there shouldn't be any restrictions on guns because it is their freakin god given right to protect themselves. How many of you think that there should be no limitations on who can own a gun? How many of you own guns for protection? If you do, don't you realize that a family member is more likely to die because of your gun than you are use it for protection. Don't you realize that the inner cities of America are being ripped apart by gun violence. Not because people that live in cities love guns and own alot of them. Its because all you suburban folks don't want any restrictions on your ability to stockpile weaponry.

I think many of you guns advocates are afraid of something and it pisses me off. You guys are so patriotic and flag waving but are afraid of the boogey man. Come on. Give me a break. Grow some balls and ride your freakin bikes without carrying a freakin gun. You guys that carry a gun on your bike are wimps that are overcompensating for some deep seeded inadequacy. Cowards. I am not afraid to ride my bike without a gun. I am more of a man without a gun than you will ever be with one.

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Joe West

Spend a few minutes and read Scalia's opinion... I believe you'll have a great indication on why the framers of our Constitution wanted Americans to have the "god given right" to keep and bear arms.

I don't understand why you seethe over the freedoms that belong to others... if you don't want to carry a firearm; don't. If you want to burn a flag... burn. If you want to tear pages out of the bible and burn them... do it. Don't wear a seatbelt, ride your bicycle without a helmet... simply put:

Do.
Whatever.
You.
Want.
To.
Do.

As long as you are willing to pay the consequences, for goodness sake... let yourself be free.

Here's the one thing you can't do:

Don't try to limit anyone's freedoms for any reason.

Once again... please read the entire majority opinion of the case; you will be enlightened beyond belief at the intellectual prowess of the majority of our Supreme Court.

I would also suggest that it is far easier to be taken seriously in a discussion if you don't resort to name calling because of your inability to articulate without turning your point into a personal attack on those you disagree with.

Joe

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CAMPYBOB

I understand hunting and claybirds and all that shit.

Mr. Frigo...may I call you Dario?...the second admendment has NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNTING. Or sporting clays. Or target shooting. You actually "understand" little, from what I'm reading.

I get pissed off at people that think there shouldn't be any restrictions on guns because it is their freakin god given right to protect themselves.

Uh, it IS my God given right to defend myself from life's morons.

Dario, Folks like YOU do not 'grant' me that right. It comes from a higher authority than the likes of you and your kind. "We hold these truths to be self-evident..." In other words, I just don't give a rat's behind about your opinion regarding my right to keep and bear arms. Neither, apparantly, does the Supreme Court.

How many of you think that there should be no limitations on who can own a gun?

Well. I feel that liberals that can't control their emotions even on the intarweb shouldn't come within five miles of such an inanimate object as a deadly ol' firearm. Or a car. Or a baseball bat. Or a steak knife. Lord knows what havoc they could wreck upon us in one of their emotional rages. I prefer that men of reason be the firearm owners.

How many of you own guns for protection?

<waves hand> oooo! oooo! pick me, teacher, pick me!!!

If you do, don't you realize that a family member is more likely to die because of your gun than you are use it for protection.

Uh, no they're not. They are trained to shoot center mass until the threat is stopped. They are taught situational awareness and tactics, target identification, room clearing, the law and the constitution. They practice safe firearm handling. They practice hitting their target reliably under all sorts of conditions. They practice, practice, practice.

Might I ask of you...How many of you drive cars for transportation? If you do, don't you realize that a family member is more likely to die because of your car than you are use it for transportation (I know...his original sentence structure makes no sense PRIOR to changing the words!).

Don't you realize that the inner cities of America are being ripped apart by gun violence.

It just breaks my heart to see tribal cultures resorting to the same behavior they've displayed since...Cain killed Able. You want to stop those thugs? Step right up to the plate. Stop typing and go out and preach the straight and narrow to them. I'm sure they'll listen attentively.

Not because people that live in cities love guns and own alot of them. Its because all you suburban folks don't want any restrictions on your ability to stockpile weaponry.

Huh? It's because I own a firearm that the gang members of MS13 own firearms??? Que?

I think many of you guns advocates are afraid of something and it pisses me off.

I'm afraid of very little in life, but I do enjoy reading the crap that pissed off liberals post on the intarweb. Actually, your emotional responses to rational points are cause for some concern. Your rage oozes from your keyboard. Better that than a firearm I suppose.

You guys are so patriotic and flag waving but are afraid of the boogey man. Come on. Give me a break. Grow some balls and ride your freakin bikes without carrying a freakin gun. You guys that carry a gun on your bike are wimps that are overcompensating for some deep seeded inadequacy. Cowards. I am not afraid to ride my bike without a gun. I am more of a man without a gun than you will ever be with one.

To tell you the truth, I'm not afraid for you riding unarmed either. It's your life and your choice. Please do be sure to name me as heir to all your Campagnolo items though.