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Old 28-06.-2008, 06:32 AM   #2521
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As a gun owner and collector of numerous handguns, rifles, and Class 3 weapons, I am pleased with the Supremes interpretation and opinion.

I get tired of being bashed by the anti-gun activists, perhaps this will now relieve some of the chatter. I do not carry regulary, but I do conceal carry when my wife and I go out at night. I have never had to use my weapon, but knowing that I have that right and ability is important to me.

I do not go around bashing people for their political views, for supporting this or that, or telling people who they should or should not marry. Please don;t tell me why guns are dangerous or otherwise.

I go through a minimum of 12 full days of handgun, rifle, carbine and shotgun training a year ( 3 days each) with a nationally know instructor. I know how to handle, carry and shoot my weapons. I know the law, my responsibilities and my rights and I am diligent about the same.

Will this issue ever be put to rest, probably not, but for now let's get on with something important like riding our bikes.
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Old 28-06.-2008, 08:03 AM   #2522
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Hi Jeff,

I'm guessing by your response below that you completely disagree with the Supreme Court ruling. I'm not sure what relevance California's gay marriage laws has to this discussion, and I am sure that your question regarding who has actually read the second amendment is rhetorical... what isn't clear to me is what your point is.

To answer your first question below... take a look at our first amendment... one might easily conclude that our first amendment (Freedom of speech just in case you aren't familiar with it) is very closely linked to our second amendment (freedom to keep and bear arms).

I'm not sure if you have read the entire opinion of the court (all 157 pages) but I have. If you read it, I think you'll find that the majority opinion by Scalia is incredibly well layed out and extremely logical, while the minority opinion is a weak hodge-podge of misinformation with little substantive basis.

Do me a favor if you wish to continue this discussion... please read the entire opinion of the court (I'll send it to you if you shoot me an email to joew@diveaz.com) and then come back and ask questions. I'd be willing to bet that we could have a somewhat lively debate on the specifics.

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Its that long? Wow. I am going to have to put that on the summer reading list. I thought he just announced it on the courthouse steps or something. I still don't know. What does he say the phrase "well regulated militia" means? Does he say who regulates the militia?

I am glad Scalia is protecting our individual rights. I just hope he doesn't take it too far and start messing with Bowers v. Hardwick. You know, the constitution doesn't mention anything about gays having rights. What other rights does Scalia think us straight folk have?
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Old 28-06.-2008, 08:33 AM   #2523
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Yes... Scalia actually answers all your questions below. I think you'll find it quite an incredible document and I would highly recommend everyone who is remotely interested give it a read. Email me if you want me to send it to you... it isn't very large (like 940kb).

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Its that long? Wow. I am going to have to put that on the summer reading list. I thought he just announced it on the courthouse steps or something. I still don't know. What does he say the phrase "well regulated militia" means? Does he say who regulates the militia?

I am glad Scalia is protecting our individual rights. I just hope he doesn't take it too far and start messing with Bowers v. Hardwick. You know, the constitution doesn't mention anything about gays having rights. What other rights does Scalia think us straight folk have?
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Old 28-06.-2008, 09:15 AM   #2524
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Just wondering how many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment? Here in Arizona we can legally carry open and concealed (concealed with permit).

For long distance touring and bicycle camping... I think I'd feel safer carrying my .45 semi-auto pistol (concealed so it doesn't freak people out).

Anyone else carry while biking?

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Let me ask this Joe. Do you feel unsafe when riding? Have you ever needed to use your gun for protection or defense?
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Old 28-06.-2008, 09:21 AM   #2525
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Hey Joe. Do you have a small gun? Do you feel it is adequate? If its small, is there any way you can compensate for it? Mine is 8.5 inches. I don't know what that is in metric.
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Old 28-06.-2008, 09:23 AM   #2526
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Joe. Its a coincidence you bring up guns. This is my favorite movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvcy-U3qOXk

Did you ever see it?
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Hey Joe. Have you ever seen the fear in the eyes of a person that has just been shot by one of Scalia's protected tools? I have.
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Hey Joe. Sorry to talk to you and nobody else. You were just the only person nice enough to tell me about how well Justice Scalia is protecting my civil liberties.
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Hey Joe. How many people are murdered with a handgun every day in your hometown?
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Old 28-06.-2008, 09:30 AM   #2530
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My hometown has 1 handgun murder every day.

Wow, that must mean that there are dozens of liberty loving citizens each day that are shooting the bad guys in the eyes in self defense.
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Oh. You know what? There haven't been any reports of a person fending off a bad guy with a gun in this town in many years. Not even a single person has successfully defended themselves with a gun in many years.
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Can somebody hang a fern in here. Its kind of drap with all of these people living their lives in fear of some mythical boogie man attacking them while they ride their bikes.
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Is that it Joe? Are you afraid of bad people?
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Old 28-06.-2008, 09:39 AM   #2534
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Is that it Joe? Are you afraid of bad people?
Ouch. Is that true?
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Old 29-06.-2008, 05:32 AM   #2535
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Actually... it is stupid people that scare me, not bad people.

I can predect the things bad people might do, but stupidity is incredibly random, widespread, and unpredictable.


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